Help finding a Col

[Dunfie]

I have been asked to run the navigation badge at my sons scout troup. One of the areas that I need to cover is Topographical Features which will cover how to identify such features as Ridges, Cols, Uniform Slope, Concave Slope, Convex Slope, pass or saddle, spur and corrie. The one that I am having trouble finding a good example of is a Cor.

Can anyone point me at a good example of a Col in the Scottish Hills so that I can illustrate it on my laptop. It would also be good to be able to show a photo of the Col too?

Thanks in advance

[NickyRannoch]

You have cols as well as passes & saddles on your list. I always took them to be the same thing, or at least that in Scotland bealach covers them all.

I might be wrong though and may explain why I'm often lost

[denfinella]

According to l'internet, a col is "the lowest point of a ridge or saddle between two peaks."

I may well be wrong, but that would lead me to believe that a col is the lowest point of a saddle, and the saddle is the highest point of a pass.

Is that right?!

[Dunfie]

Thanks for the replys - I have been struggling to distinguish between a col adn a saddle too. The definitions I have from the scouting materials is:

Col - a short ridge connecting two higher elevations or mountains; the pass over such a ridge.

Pass or Saddle - this is a low point between two areas of higher ground

Not sure if that just confuses the issue.

[Dunfie]

Thanks for the replys - I have been struggling to distinguish between a col adn a saddle too. The definitions I have from the scouting materials is:

Col - a short ridge connecting two higher elevations or mountains; the pass over such a ridge.

Pass or Saddle - this is a low point between two areas of higher ground

Not sure if that just confuses the issue.

[Milesy]

They are the same thing. Col, Saddle, Pass or Bealach.

Identiable as an "hour glass" shape with the ground sloping downhill at two opposing ends, and the ground rising on the perpindicular sides.

Get yourself a copy of this book. It is essential reading and tells you everything you need to know about the different types of features.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mountain-Navigation-Peter-Cliff/dp/1871890551

[Milesy]

And this is a photo of that same col in the map.

The photo is taking from the view point of the right hand side of the hour glass shape in the map above. So the furthest away point which has ground rising both the left and the right is the col itself.

[Milesy]

and cause I am bored... a simple sketch done by my couch child cough.

[Dunfie]

Thanks Milesy - it does seem to be confusion caused by the use of so many words for the same thing.

[Milesy]

Thanks Milesy - it does seem to be confusion caused by the use of so many words for the same thing.

Just different languages.

Bealach is used in Scotland (Gaelic for pass),
Col is the french term.
Saddle is used more in the USA.

Pass itself mainly refers to the fact that people used it as a pass between more difficult ground.

It can also be called a gap or a notch

[Gythral]

Add Bwlch to those names (Welsh)

[Jonay]

or a mountain pass...

[Caberfeidh]

Or "Slochd" as near Dalwhinnie, or the Wolf's Sloch in the Galloway Hills.

[electricfly]

The dyslexic gynecologist in me thought this thread read "Help finding a Coil".

Shame, would really loved to have seen Milesy's diagram for that!

[johnkaysleftleg]

Or a Hause in the Lakes just to give it yet another name.