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So near yet so far away.

So near yet so far away.


Postby maxie23 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:01 pm

The two Lochearnhead munros, Ben Vorlich and Stuc a'Chroin are 28 miles away from my home, as the crow flies.
They are also in a different council area so are inaccessible at the present time. :(
The photos were taken from a local park where I used to walk my dogs and I have used my camera to capture these two hills in a variety of weather conditions.

ImageBeinn Each, Stuc a Chroin and Ben Vorlich, 2nd January 2020 by robert irvine, on Flickr

ImageBen Vorlich, 2nd January 2020 by robert irvine, on Flickr

ImageStuc a Chroin, 2nd January 2020 by robert irvine, on Flickr

Any other views of inaccessible hills out there?
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Re: So near yet so far away.

Postby HalfManHalfTitanium » Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:19 pm

Great photos!

This is my view on Christmas Eve of the Malvern Hills, across the county boundary in Worcestershire.
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Re: So near yet so far away.

Postby al78 » Sat Jan 02, 2021 7:29 pm

When I went for a walk in the Forest of Bowland on Wednesday (the day before NW England was put in tier 4), I could just make out the Lakeland fells from near the summit of Fair Snape Fell, unfortunately couldn't really get them on camera.
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Re: So near yet so far away.

Postby Sunset tripper » Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:50 am

@Maxie23
I feel for you and it seems like just a bad roll of the dice that you cant climb these hills while someone living further away could climb them legally. :crazy:
Another strange one is for mountain folk from Moray. They have 7 munros in their local authority area that they can climb legally but they cant go to the normal starting point or easy access point for any of these hills. They can still climb them but they become real expeditions especially this time of year. Ben Avon from Tomintoul is maybe the easiest. :shock:
A great challenge though and there will be folk out there doing it. :D
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Postby Tringa » Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:40 am

The restriction to be limited to your own council area does seem odd. In Highland for example staying within the area gives access to over nearly 26,000 sq km while in Dundee it only about 60 sq km.

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Re: So near yet so far away.

Postby maxie23 » Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:09 am

Sunset tripper wrote:@Maxie23
I feel for you and it seems like just a bad roll of the dice that you cant climb these hills while someone living further away could climb them legally. :crazy:
Another strange one is for mountain folk from Moray. They have 7 munros in their local authority area that they can climb legally but they cant go to the normal starting point or easy access point for any of these hills. They can still climb them but they become real expeditions especially this time of year. Ben Avon from Tomintoul is maybe the easiest. :shock:
A great challenge though and there will be folk out there doing it. :D


Hi Sunset Tripper

Yeah that would be a challenge.

Here in Falkirk district, our highest point is the mighty Darrach hill, which tops out at an astounding 1168 ft.

To be honest, I knew nothing about it until last night.
I found an old W.H. report about it.
https://www.walkhighlands.co.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=19449

I'm going to attempt it this week, unless Nicola shuts us down completely today.

Obviously a trip like this will take a mammoth amount of preparation and planning.
Wish me luck and if I succeed I'm sure it will make a fascinating report. :lol:

Regards.

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Re: So near yet so far away.

Postby CharlesT » Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:24 pm

1168 ft! A mountain indeed from where I am confined in Oxfordshire. I have a choice of White Horse Hill at 844 ft or Bald Hill at 842 ft, current and previous county tops. Both involve driving more than five miles, so not in guidance range strictly. Locally my residence is at 443 ft, the highest point in walking distance is 485 ft and the lowest 246 ft, so opportunities for scaling heights are a bit limited. However, the field tracks are of energy sapping mud, so my calves get a good workout. :D
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Re: So near yet so far away.

Postby al78 » Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:48 pm

Tringa wrote:The restriction to be limited to your own council area does seem odd. In Highland for example staying within the area gives access to over nearly 26,000 sq km while in Dundee it only about 60 sq km.

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It seems to be very urban-centric, which I guess makes sense given the worst COVID rates are in the dense urban areas, but when such a rule is rolled out everywhere, it becomes less logical when there is large variance in area covered by local authorities, as there is in Scotland (maybe Wales as well). The alternative is to restrict travel by distance, but travelling five miles in an urban area gives more opportunity for spreading the virus than travelling five miles in the Scottish highlands. It is probably one of those situations where the optimal rule would be variable depending on population density but that is probably very hard to enact in an understandable way to the public and even harder to enforce. Really what it is about is keeping distance from others, easy in remote areas, difficult in dense urban areas.
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Re: So near yet so far away.

Postby maxie23 » Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:41 pm

CharlesT wrote:1168 ft! A mountain indeed from where I am confined in Oxfordshire. I have a choice of White Horse Hill at 844 ft or Bald Hill at 842 ft, current and previous county tops. Both involve driving more than five miles, so not in guidance range strictly. Locally my residence is at 443 ft, the highest point in walking distance is 485 ft and the lowest 246 ft, so opportunities for scaling heights are a bit limited. However, the field tracks are of energy sapping mud, so my calves get a good workout. :D


Hi CharlesT

Darrach hill had a start point of about 600 ft so it wouldn't have been much of a climb.

Most of the field tracks around here are pretty much still frozen, like walking on concrete.

Anyway, Nicola has just shut Scotland down so even this hill will be a no go now.

Lucky we have a small hill in our local park to exercise on.

ImageEiger north face by robert irvine, on Flickr

Sorry I don't think that's the correct photo. :lol:

Regards.

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Re: So near yet so far away.

Postby Giant Stoneater » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:48 pm

maxie23 wrote:
CharlesT wrote:1168 ft! A mountain indeed from where I am confined in Oxfordshire. I have a choice of White Horse Hill at 844 ft or Bald Hill at 842 ft, current and previous county tops. Both involve driving more than five miles, so not in guidance range strictly. Locally my residence is at 443 ft, the highest point in walking distance is 485 ft and the lowest 246 ft, so opportunities for scaling heights are a bit limited. However, the field tracks are of energy sapping mud, so my calves get a good workout. :D


Hi CharlesT

Darrach hill had a start point of about 600 ft so it wouldn't have been much of a climb.

Most of the field tracks around here are pretty much still frozen, like walking on concrete.

Anyway, Nicola has just shut Scotland down so even this hill will be a no go now.

Lucky we have a small hill in our local park to exercise on.

Regards.

Robert


Darrach Hill is still within your reach as was published today.

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Re: So near yet so far away.

Postby maxie23 » Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:14 pm

Hi Giant Stoneater.

Thanks for that mate.

I heard Nicolas speech when I was out for a walk today, didn't have time to read through everything until later on.

Looks like the big expedition could be back on.

Regards.

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Re: So near yet so far away.

Postby Caberfeidh » Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:16 am

Not sure of that's the Campsie Fells behind Dumbarton Rock, or the Lomond Hills, but they seem out of reach these days. I'm giving up the sea for a while to become a vaccinator (which may add a frisson of terror to your own vaccination experience!). Being a vaccinator will mean I get vaccinated first. I'm hoping that when I am vaccinated, this will mean I have a sort of passport to go where I please... :shock:

Dumbarton Rock#p.jpg
The Far Pavilions...


(oh I just realised it looks like Ben Lomond itself. Huzzah!)
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Postby Graeme D » Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:41 am

maxie23 wrote:Hi Giant Stoneater.

Thanks for that mate.

I heard Nicolas speech when I was out for a walk today, didn't have time to read through everything until later on.

Looks like the big expedition could be back on.

Regards.

Robert


Good luck with the big exped. You will be following in the footsteps of mountaineering legends and icons from the halcyon days. Are you taking sherpas? Oxygen? Or simply just "freestyling"? Either way, take care, especially in the Death Zone. And watch that Boaby Step - I hear it can be very awkward at this time of year.
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Re: So near yet so far away.

Postby Sunset tripper » Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:48 pm

Caberfeidh wrote: I'm giving up the sea for a while to become a vaccinator

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

I've just noticed this, and I'm surprised the First Minister hasn't been asked about it at her daily briefing, surely this requires more attention than Celtics holiday in Dubai?

Are you taking your axe with you? :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: So near yet so far away.

Postby maxie23 » Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:15 pm

Graeme D wrote:
maxie23 wrote:Hi Giant Stoneater.

Thanks for that mate.

I heard Nicolas speech when I was out for a walk today, didn't have time to read through everything until later on.

Looks like the big expedition could be back on.

Regards.

Robert


Good luck with the big exped. You will be following in the footsteps of mountaineering legends and icons from the halcyon days. Are you taking sherpas? Oxygen? Or simply just "freestyling"? Either way, take care, especially in the Death Zone. And watch that Boaby Step - I hear it can be very awkward at this time of year.


Hi Graeme D

Thanks for the wise words mate :lol:

Provisions are my main concern.
Do I take one cheese roll or two.
What flavour of crisps should I go for.
Will my flask of chicken soup be enough.
So many unanswered questions. :?:

Regards.

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