walkhighlands

This forum is for general discussion about walking and scrambling... If writing a report or sharing your experiences from a route, please use the other boards.

Best base for hiking without a car?

Re: Best base for hiking without a car?

Postby ChrisButch » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:36 am

Inverie (Knoydart)! Meets all your criteria..
ChrisButch
 
Posts: 200
Joined: Apr 18, 2016

Re: Best base for hiking without a car?

Postby Giant Stoneater » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:38 am

Mallaig has bus, train and ferry, shops and pubs.
Just a wee bit of planning around timetables might be needed but it can be done.
Bus and train give access to Glenfinnan etc, ferry gives access to Inverie,Knoydart plus Mallaig has a couple of nice small hills.

http://the-mission-bunkhouse-hostel-mallaig.bedspro.com/en/
Giant Stoneater
Scrambler
 
Posts: 921
Joined: Aug 2, 2014

Re: Best base for hiking without a car?

Postby weedavie » Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:25 am

nigheandonn wrote:Depending on what kind of walking you want, maybe Pitlochry - train to Blair Atholl or Dalwhinnie for serious Munro bagging, some nice wanders (and Ben Vrackie) on your doorstep, tiny hills at Dunkeld, and the bus towards Kinloch Rannoch for a change.

Scotrail's recent timetable changes have screwed up the use of train return from Blair. The old 5.20 south has disappeared. This knackered me for using the train from Edinburgh, used to be able to get 7 hours on the hill and half an hour with a pint in the Atholl Arms garden. Now it's ride like the wind to get back to Pitlochry for the 4.20 (and climbing through Killiecrankie on the way is not a great way of warming down!)
weedavie
Mountain Walker
 
Posts: 306
Joined: Jul 15, 2011

Re: Best base for hiking without a car?

Postby nigheandonn » Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:04 pm

Ahh, I've always been heading for dinner in the Atholl Arms and the 20:20. Or the last train at 10, the day I did Beinn a' Ghlo!

Since the OP's reports are quite varied in type and setting (which is a good thing!), I was trying to think of somewhere that wasn't just a best place for Munros. But I don't really know the Cairngorms, so there's probably more there than I realise.
User avatar
nigheandonn
Wanderer
 
Posts: 1668
Munros:19   Corbetts:9
Fionas:7   Donalds:26+10
Sub 2000:64   Hewitts:142
Wainwrights:214   Islands:34
Joined: Jul 7, 2011
Location: Edinburgh

Re: Best base for hiking without a car?

Postby goth_angel » Mon Mar 07, 2022 2:25 pm

As someone who used to use the sleeper train regularly to come up from London, I'd echo the suggestions of Aviemore, Crianlarich/ Tyndrum or Fort William. Mind you we did sometimes hire a car to allow for more flexibility.

That said, one thing to bear in mind is that unless you are happy with the seated sleeper carriage, the cost of the sleeper is totally extortionate these days. The old operator used to do a regular users club which gave some excellent discounts but Serco has racked the prices up to silly levels. Depending on where you are going you are going to be looking at several hundred quid for a return if you want a berth.
User avatar
goth_angel
 
Posts: 350
Munros:101   Corbetts:9
Fionas:4   Donalds:1
Sub 2000:13   Hewitts:85
Wainwrights:181   
Joined: May 13, 2008
Location: Too far awav from Scotland (Kent)

Re: Best base for hiking without a car?

Postby al78 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 3:59 pm

goth_angel wrote:As someone who used to use the sleeper train regularly to come up from London, I'd echo the suggestions of Aviemore, Crianlarich/ Tyndrum or Fort William. Mind you we did sometimes hire a car to allow for more flexibility.

That said, one thing to bear in mind is that unless you are happy with the seated sleeper carriage, the cost of the sleeper is totally extortionate these days. The old operator used to do a regular users club which gave some excellent discounts but Serco has racked the prices up to silly levels. Depending on where you are going you are going to be looking at several hundred quid for a return if you want a berth.


I agree. I have used the sleeper several times when I could get it at a fair price, but whenever I have looked at it recently it is well over £200 one way for the cheapest cabin. Much better to get a day train and stay overnight at my destination. I will never sleep well (if at all) in a seat so I'm never taking that option. Things aren't going to change any time soon given the sleeper is very popular despite the cost.
User avatar
al78
Walker
 
Posts: 1420
Munros:32   Corbetts:9
Donalds:1
Joined: Feb 1, 2018

Re: Best base for hiking without a car?

Postby LobeyD » Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:38 pm

Both Citylink and Scotrail charge eye-watering sums for short journeys. Unless you can get some sort of pass, I would perhaps look at spending 2-3 nights in different places rather than going up and down the line/road a few times. Perhaps Crianlarich, Corrour, and Fort William would give some good variety and you won't run out of easily accessible routes.
LobeyD
 
Posts: 164
Munros:254   Corbetts:94
Fionas:38   Donalds:27
Sub 2000:1   
Joined: Jul 28, 2017

Re: Best base for hiking without a car?

Postby Alteknacker » Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:26 pm

prog99 wrote:
Alteknacker wrote:This might be a bit left field... but if you could bring a mountain bike with you, this would massively open up the opportunities - eg you could base yourself at Glencoe, and then there would be endless great hills within striking distance.

Just a thought...

In that case then (as glencoe isn't near a train station) fort william would be a good choice with lots of amenities.


I was thinking that one could easily cycle from Fort William, but you're right: there is no shortage of fine hills around FW.
User avatar
Alteknacker
Scrambler
 
Posts: 3473
Munros:176   Corbetts:33
Fionas:1   
Hewitts:264
Wainwrights:118   
Joined: May 25, 2013
Location: Effete South (of WIgan, anyway)

Re: Best base for hiking without a car?

Postby gld73 » Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:54 am

If you're looking to minimise time on transport and have a variety of different walks, Newtonmore or Kingussie would also be good options (either village as, it's a flat, easy walk between the 2 on the Speyside Way path which runs parallel to the road for that stretch).

Both have train stations which are on the London to Inverness line, so the sleeper train goes direct to them, no changes required (the 21:15 train from Euston gets in to Newtonmore at 07:07 on the current timetable). Various places to stay and eat, plus a Co-op or Scotmid in both villages.

From your accommodation you can do a corbett, 2 grahams, 1 or 2 sub-2000s, the round of 3 Monadhliath munros, a bunch of other hills not in those bagging categories, plus lower level walks on the Speyside way and East Highland Way which pass through the villages (i.e. walks for all weathers).

Aviemore and Dalwhinnie are the train stops either side of Newtonmore and Kingussie, so if you do want to hop on a train to access more hills, they're easy to get to.
User avatar
gld73
 
Posts: 900
Munros:178   Corbetts:76
Fionas:69   Donalds:12
Sub 2000:94   Hewitts:60
Wainwrights:107   Islands:13
Joined: Aug 11, 2015
Location: Inverness

Re: Best base for hiking without a car?

Postby Veryhappybunny » Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:12 am

How about Corrour? There is the youth hostel or the signal box accomodation at the Station. You can cook your own food at the youth hostel or eat out at the station restaurant. There are walks up Being na Lap, the two Munros south of loch Ossian, the Corbett Leum Uilleim. (Also more distant walks from the other end of Loch Ossian, but a bike might be handy for that).
I stayed there as a long weekend from the south of England by train and it was magical.
Veryhappybunny
Walker
 
Posts: 255
Munros:282   Corbetts:159
Fionas:18   Donalds:10
Sub 2000:19   Hewitts:90
Wainwrights:163   Islands:8
Joined: Jan 9, 2011
Location: Sunny Scotland

Re: Best base for hiking without a car?

Postby When Adventure Knox » Sat Mar 12, 2022 7:34 pm

Oh my goodness, thank you so much to everyone who replied. This has given me plenty of food for thought and things to research. A particular thank you to nigheandonn who took the time to look at my previous trip reports to look at the types of walks I've previously done. I feel very blessed to have access to a community as thoughtful and helpful as this one!
When Adventure Knox
Walker
 
Posts: 54
Joined: Nov 12, 2020

Previous



Can you help support Walkhighlands?


Our forum is free from adverts - your generosity keeps it running.
Can you help support Walkhighlands and this community by donating by direct debit?



Return to General discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 29 guests