Remembrance Day in the hills

[AlisonFox66]

do you pause at 11 o clock ?

[Meatball]

You should...

[KeithS]

Not every day, but I always do on remembrance day.

[johnkaysleftleg]

http://www.leaney.org/lake_district_walk.php?walk_id=1052

These folks did

[NickyRannoch]

You should...

says who?

each to their own but one of the great joys of the hills for me,especially solo, is forgetting the world below, forgetting the time and enjoying quiet contemplation.

[Fellwanderer]

http://www.leaney.org/lake_district_walk.php?walk_id=1052

These folks did

I was on Gable as well having walked up from Brackenclose via Sty Head and returned on the old pony track. The complete silence is always very moving.

[Meatball]

You should...

says who?

each to their own but one of the great joys of the hills for me,especially solo, is forgetting the world below, forgetting the time and enjoying quiet contemplation.

We were asked our opinions...that was mine...you have yours!

[Astronick]

We did. We were on a heathery hill just south of White Bridge on Sunday morning at 11. We spent two minutes in quiet contemplation looking out over the high Cairngorms with snow flurries sweeping up the Geldie and shrouding the Lairig Ghru.

[bloghog]

We did. We were out on mountain bikes and not particularly high up but we stopped at 11 for some silent contemplation.

[dawnfoth]

Last year I was on Great Gable on Rememberance Sunday. It was absolutely overloaded with people, but nice to see that so many people respect those who have died for our country. I think the day on Great Gable in particular is to remember the fallen of those who were members of the Fell Rock Climbing Club who died in WWI.

Yes, you don't have to take two minutes on 11/11 at 11am - you can remember them anytime, but this day, Armistice Day marks the end of the First World War, thus why this is the day we traditionally remember the fallen. Why wouldn't you, seems a more appropriate question...?

Its not only about Veterans, but those still fighting for our country....

[Cairngormwanderer]

this is the day we traditionally remember the fallen. Why wouldn't you, seems a more appropriate question...?

Because it's institutionalised and, despite all the individual reasons many people have for remembering, once it becomes institutionalised and formalised, it loses much of the personal aspect and teeters a very fine line between remembrance and glorification. We hear much about the glorious dead from those who are still sending people to die and - for me - as a national ceremony, with all the pressure on people to comply with it, it comes perilously close to the bizarre Islamic trick of telling young people they will become martyrs and get a great seat in heaven if they blow themselves up to kill the infidel.
I have every respect for people who serve their country and mourn the loss of young lives or their being blighted by injury, but I will not put it in a box and take it out on one day a year (the end of one amongst far too many wars) to show people how much my heart bleeds. What is the relevance of a particular date anyway? My mother died on a Hallowe'en, but I don't save it all up to Oct 31 to grieve or to miss her - that happens as and when I think of her and Hallowe'en may or may not be one of those times.

[Meatball]

this is the day we traditionally remember the fallen. Why wouldn't you, seems a more appropriate question...?

Because it's institutionalised and, despite all the individual reasons many people have for remembering, once it becomes institutionalised and formalised, it loses much of the personal aspect and teeters a very fine line between remembrance and glorification. We hear much about the glorious dead from those who are still sending people to die and - for me - as a national ceremony, with all the pressure on people to comply with it, it comes perilously close to the bizarre Islamic trick of telling young people they will become martyrs and get a great seat in heaven if they blow themselves up to kill the infidel.
I have every respect for people who serve their country and mourn the loss of young lives or their being blighted by injury, but I will not put it in a box and take it out on one day a year (the end of one amongst far too many wars) to show people how much my heart bleeds. What is the relevance of a particular date anyway? My mother died on a Hallowe'en, but I don't save it all up to Oct 31 to grieve or to miss her - that happens as and when I think of her and Hallowe'en may or may not be one of those times.

I find that whole post disrespectful.
That is only my opinion though.

[Cairngormwanderer]

this is the day we traditionally remember the fallen. Why wouldn't you, seems a more appropriate question...?

Because it's institutionalised and, despite all the individual reasons many people have for remembering, once it becomes institutionalised and formalised, it loses much of the personal aspect and teeters a very fine line between remembrance and glorification. We hear much about the glorious dead from those who are still sending people to die and - for me - as a national ceremony, with all the pressure on people to comply with it, it comes perilously close to the bizarre Islamic trick of telling young people they will become martyrs and get a great seat in heaven if they blow themselves up to kill the infidel.
I have every respect for people who serve their country and mourn the loss of young lives or their being blighted by injury, but I will not put it in a box and take it out on one day a year (the end of one amongst far too many wars) to show people how much my heart bleeds. What is the relevance of a particular date anyway? My mother died on a Hallowe'en, but I don't save it all up to Oct 31 to grieve or to miss her - that happens as and when I think of her and Hallowe'en may or may not be one of those times.

I find that whole post disrespectful.
That is only my opinion though.

And that's why I seldom express my opinion. And it backs up my view that there's an almost fascist compulsion on people to take part. What do you find disrespectful? I have said I have every respect for people in the armed forces, I have said I mourn their loss and suffering. What I object to is the compulsory annual festival which to me smacks of glorification rather than remembrance. I don't try to stop people taking part if that's what rows their boat, but I do get **** off when I'm told I'm disrespectful for disagreeing. That is contemptable and to use the cliche about soldiers' sacrifice: people died to protect the right of free speech. Now, under the guise of honouring those people, other people are trying to restrict my free speech and force me into compliance with their will.
That's it. That's my opinion and I don't care what sort of ignorance causes people to criticise me for it or call me 'disrespectful'.

[Meatball]

My opinion is based on the fact that military lose people day upon day fighting in wars in our name. Whether or not you believe in those conflicts or not I think that to stand still for a couple of minutes in silence is a mark of respect that every uk citizen should do. Respect, something that is sadly missing these days.
I hardly think that makes me a fascist or restricts your free speech.
If people have given their lives to protect this country and you think it doesn't deserve such a gesture then you can choose to ignore it...
You are correct, freedom of expression exists in the uk because people fought and died for that right! You can call it a cliche if you like.

[Meatball]

By the way, I said I thought your post was disrespectful and you then went on to say that my opinion F***ed you off and that I was ignorant. Quite a statement and looks like an attempt at trolling!