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Magnetic Variance

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:58 am
by islayhawk
Can someone tell me why I should get a different calculation for the Magnetc angle from different web sites. One gives the difference at 1' 3" west. While the other gives a difference of 4' 25" west.
Both for Lat 55.563 N and 6.25W

islayhawk

Re: Magnetic Variance

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:44 am
by MacCookie
Grid north verses true north?

Re: Magnetic Variance

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:47 am
by IainG
Out if interest, does anyone know the magnetic to grid north difference this year?

Re: Magnetic Variance

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:28 pm
by PhilTurner
It depends a little on your location - see http://www.geomag.bgs.ac.uk/data_service/models_compass/gma_calc.html for a useful tool (based on July 2012).

Re: Magnetic Variance

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:37 pm
by Circles
Look at the general information section of your OS map at a section called North points...it will state the variance between grid and mag for the publish date as well as stating hw much it changes each year so if your map is a few years old, you can calculate the difference...most here say you should always have your own map...being able to convert grid to mag (and back again if taking back bearings or performing a resection) yourself is just as important...your correction must be based on the map you are using

Re: Magnetic Variance

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:04 pm
by Gavin99
Hi Islayhawk , as MacCookie suggests one figure is the angle between magnetic and grid north(magnetic angle ) ,eg Islay Airport , 1deg 2 min west (July 2012)
The other figure is the angle between grid north and true /geographic north (magnetic declination) , at the Airport this is 4deg 25min west .
The magnetic / grid angle is the one to use when taking bearings and map reading

Re: Magnetic Variance

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 12:26 pm
by Gavin99
Edit
Ooops , that should read 'The other figure is the angle between magnetic north and true ..'

Re: Magnetic Variance

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:14 pm
by islayhawk
Thanks everybody for your replies. It is the magnetic angle I use and I was thrown by the website giving the Declination. Problem solved
Thanks

Islayhawk

Re: Magnetic Variance

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:21 pm
by Caberfeidh
There are alternatives. As Mrs Beaton would have it ~ "First catch your dung beetle...."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21150721

Re: Magnetic Variance

PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:13 am
by rabthecairnterrier
The British Geological Survey have a page on their website which allows
you to calculate the current magnetic variation for any part of the uk:

http://www.geomag.bgs.ac.uk/data_service/models_compass/gma_calc.html

Re: Magnetic Variance

PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:19 pm
by ramiro darek
to make sure :) for my town just now is( MAGNETIC NORTH IS 3,02 W OF TRUE NORT AND 2.00 W OF GRID NORT) so the changes that I have to enter is 2.00 w on my compass ??THX

Re: Magnetic Variance

PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:01 pm
by jmarkb
ramiro darek wrote:to make sure :) for my town just now is( MAGNETIC NORTH IS 3,02 W OF TRUE NORT AND 2.00 W OF GRID NORT) so the changes that I have to enter is 2.00 w on my compass ??THX


That's correct, though it's hardly worth bothering with in practice.

Re: Magnetic Variance

PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:34 pm
by neilfromperth
That's correct, though it's hardly worth bothering with in practice.[/quote]

Oh, I would bother. Remind me not to follow you in a white out. :lol: