The Munros Are Moving
by Border Reiver » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:45 am
Surely the BBC researchers can be bothered to get these simple things right.
The rescue itself was about 3 walkers who were descending Beinn a Chroin on the path, yet when the cloud came down they were lost as their only map was on a Smart Phone. None were injured, but none had the nous to work it out, it was easier to phone 999 and ask to be rescued.
by IamAJMiller » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:51 am
by electricfly » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:36 am
The problem began after the Navy Chopper had originally been on a training exercise in (Glen Coe), correct.
Then when returning to HMS Gannet they received a call from Police in Crianlarich about some climbers lost on Beinn a' Chroin, correct.
From then on, "Mr Narrator" began to assume that Beinn a' Chroin must be a Glen Coe mountain, wrong!
The descriptive loving voice-over man then punctuated this incorrect fact everytime he mentioned Beinn a' Chroin. We were repeatedly treated to this painful faux pas approximately every 30 seconds for the rest of the "thrilling clag rescue".
The BBC are getting worse when it comes to this kind of thing. The other day their new, lunchtime weatherman kept sweeping his hand along the western isles and coast when referring to eastern Scotland.
Notifying them of their errors means creating a BBC online account through their website, by the time i'd searched through all their contact pages and discovered I had to create such an account, I'd almost lost the will to live and the notion to be bothered by it, so hit the red X in the top right corner...
by peter tindal » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:06 pm
by Circles » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:16 pm
by JTweedie » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:12 pm
by stomper » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:28 pm
by hailiamdigby » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:48 pm
stomper wrote:the MRT are risking their lives at the same time.
Surely the MRT deal with a lot worse situations than the one that's been described here? I doubt they lost any sleep over 3 people not using their brains. No doubt those 3 would have received an ear-bashing though.
by gammy leg walker » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:11 pm
by Morecambe Monkey » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:47 am
by ouroboros » Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:05 am
RTC wrote:JTweedie wrote:Didn't see this, but surely there's no way of getting lost if you just stick to the path that you're already on? Even if a path branches and you take the wrong one, there's very little chance of being truly lost in most of Scotland!
You are assuming that all hills in Scotland have paths. I have to disagree with your statement.
by electricfly » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:29 pm
Even O.S. seemed rather sketchy as to where the actual summit point was situated for a while.
This does not excuse the lack of map and compass or the use of common sense from the 3 rescued.
I have the advantage of having visited Beinn a' Chroin multiple times in varying types of conditions, and can understand how, without a map and compass, and with very little hill sense, a party could become disorientated during a first visit here in claggy conditions.
With no injuries to the party, they were lucky that Rescue 177 were feeling charitible. I recently spoke to a German couple at Loch Ossian, who had got lost on Rannoch Moor overnight whilst attempting to journey from Culra Bothy to the SYHA at Ossian. The MRT they contacted told them they would not be coming to their aid as it was not deemed to be an emergency.
Perhaps being lost at altitude is the deciding factor?...
by celt54321 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:57 pm
by electricfly » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:40 pm
celt54321 wrote:i think what rtc meant was that if these 3 followed a path up then no matter how much clag there was they should have had the ability to follow the same path back down
That would be JTweedie who was suggesting the path could be re-traced.
There's no denying the three were ill-prepared, complacent about their rescue and should have received an ear-bashing from the rescue services.
As you will see when you tick off Beinn a' Chroin, the summit area is quite unconventional and retracing a path could lead them off in several dangerous directions.
Unless you know you are about to become lost and mentally map where you are walking, turning around and going back the way you came is not quite as clear-cut as it might appear.
The path off Beinn a' Chroin to the west is tricky to find in good visibility, while the safer path off the north east shoulder is a good distance away over several peaks and dips.
by celt54321 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:53 pm