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Re: What is "your" hill?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:04 pm
by agentmancuso
magicdin wrote:I suppose someone who set out to visit each Triangulation Point would be called a "Trigger"


Trigpointer and trigbagger are also in common use...

Re: What is "your" hill?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:05 pm
by agentmancuso
magicdin wrote:Lists, Lists !! - for anybody not fed up with lists - what about this
http://www.haroldstreet.org.uk/waypoints/


You'll get even more than that at the Database of British Hills. Not Yeamans though, at least not yet.

Re: What is "your" hill?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:35 pm
by fedupofuserids
agentmancuso wrote:
magicdin wrote:Lists, Lists !! - for anybody not fed up with lists - what about this
http://www.haroldstreet.org.uk/waypoints/


You'll get even more than that at the Database of British Hills. Not Yeamans though, at least not yet.


The database of british hills - graphically here :- http://www.hill-bagging.co.uk/index.php

or for scotland only version here :- http://www.hill-bagging.co.uk/Scotland/Scotland.php

Re: What is "your" hill?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:07 pm
by Arte Et Labore
magicdin wrote:Lists, Lists !! - for anybody not fed up with lists - what about this
http://www.haroldstreet.org.uk/waypoints/


I just looked up the trig points in my local map area (NT). All I can say is :crazy:

I'm going to start my log now :lol:

Re: What is "your" hill?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:20 pm
by kerrera
fedupofuserids wrote:or for scotland only version here :- http://www.hill-bagging.co.uk/Scotland/Scotland.php


A Marilyn? Not on MC's to do list.

Re: What is "your" hill?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:58 pm
by fedupofuserids
kerrera wrote:
fedupofuserids wrote:or for scotland only version here :- http://www.hill-bagging.co.uk/Scotland/Scotland.php


A Marilyn? Not on MC's to do list.


How popular are they ?

Locally to myself I'm happy to climb any hill in the lakes, elsewhere in England unless its something worthwhile I'm not really bothered whether its a hewitt, nuttal, marilyn etc....

North of the Border, I'd prefer a munro or a corbett but if the hill looks interesting I'm more than willing to climb a graham or even a donald, again the shear number of Marilyns probably means unless I win the lottery I'll never finish them.

I once stumbled upon a thread (not here) where several people where argueing on the location of a marilyn top (on the Isle of Wight - I think), the OS put it a fenced army base/radar station - people where sneaking in. Others claimed it to be just outside the perimeter fence on a ruined lump of concrete which used to be an ex-army building.

Urmmm.... sounds good - you can bag Munro's and see Scotland in its glory or climb Marilyns and argue over a lump of derelict concrete in a field whilst getting shot at. I know where I'll be....

Re: What is "your" hill?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 9:02 am
by agentmancuso
fedupofuserids wrote:I once stumbled upon a thread (not here) where several people where argueing on the location of a marilyn top (on the Isle of Wight - I think), the OS put it a fenced army base/radar station - people where sneaking in. Others claimed it to be just outside the perimeter fence on a ruined lump of concrete which used to be an ex-army building.

Urmmm.... sounds good - you can bag Munro's and see Scotland in its glory or climb Marilyns and argue over a lump of derelict concrete in a field whilst getting shot at. I know where I'll be....


The two are not mutually exclusive, just different ends of the one spectrum.

Different day, different challenge.

Re: What is "your" hill?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:21 pm
by fedupofuserids
agentmancuso wrote:
fedupofuserids wrote:I once stumbled upon a thread (not here) where several people where argueing on the location of a marilyn top (on the Isle of Wight - I think), the OS put it a fenced army base/radar station - people where sneaking in. Others claimed it to be just outside the perimeter fence on a ruined lump of concrete which used to be an ex-army building.

Urmmm.... sounds good - you can bag Munro's and see Scotland in its glory or climb Marilyns and argue over a lump of derelict concrete in a field whilst getting shot at. I know where I'll be....


The two are not mutually exclusive, just different ends of the one spectrum.

Different day, different challenge.


I've probably picked a poor example of a Marilyn. I've seen photos on this site of Scottish Marilyns and they look nice hills - which I would be more than happy to make the effort to climb one day. However I have no inkling to climb the one in my example.

Re: What is "your" hill?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:00 pm
by agentmancuso
fedupofuserids wrote:
agentmancuso wrote:
fedupofuserids wrote:I've probably picked a poor example of a Marilyn. I've seen photos on this site of Scottish Marilyns and they look nice hills - which I would be more than happy to make the effort to climb one day. However I have no inkling to climb the one in my example.


I spend more time looking for trigs than climbing hills, so "ruined lumps of concrete" are what I'm after. :lol:

Re: What is "your" hill?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:55 am
by midgebite
Mine is Win Hill in the Peak District, its the view from my front door and only a mile away, i was born in its shadow many moons ago and still i never tire of climbing to the top.

Re: What is "your" hill?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:49 am
by FMCKIE
fedupofuserids wrote:
agentmancuso wrote:
fedupofuserids wrote:I once stumbled upon a thread (not here) where several people where argueing on the location of a marilyn top (on the Isle of Wight - I think), the OS put it a fenced army base/radar station - people where sneaking in. Others claimed it to be just outside the perimeter fence on a ruined lump of concrete which used to be an ex-army building.

Urmmm.... sounds good - you can bag Munro's and see Scotland in its glory or climb Marilyns and argue over a lump of derelict concrete in a field whilst getting shot at. I know where I'll be....


The two are not mutually exclusive, just different ends of the one spectrum.

Different day, different challenge.


I've probably picked a poor example of a Marilyn. I've seen photos on this site of Scottish Marilyns and they look nice hills - which I would be more than happy to make the effort to climb one day. However I have no inkling to climb the one in my example.


The logistics of just getting to some Marilyns is part of the fun. It also takes you some really remote Islands. I reckon doing Marilyns (Sub2 ones) has been more rewarding and more of a challange than any of the more popular groups.(M,C,G & Donalds)

BTW : Like you though I dont fancy that one much although south of the border they dont exist to me :wink:

Re: What is "your" hill?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:02 am
by Paul Webster
I don't think there can be any doubt that the Sub2000s (Marilyns) are the biggest challenge - otherwise someone would have actually climbed all of them by now :D

Re: What is "your" hill?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:08 pm
by icemandan
Apparently the owner of the Marilyn that is in a back garden in Crowborough, Sussex is getting a bit fed up with the whole thing. Some new challenges

i) To do a complete circumnavigation of the 2000 ft or 600m contour line wherever it occurs;
ii) To climb the munros in a single expedition in height or alphabetical order;
iii) To visit every point in the Uk where 1 km grid squares intersect.

Re: What is "your" hill?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:38 am
by fedupofuserids
icemandan wrote:Apparently the owner of the Marilyn that is in a back garden in Crowborough, Sussex is getting a bit fed up with the whole thing. Some new challenges

i) To do a complete circumnavigation of the 2000 ft or 600m contour line wherever it occurs;
ii) To climb the munros in a single expedition in height or alphabetical order;
iii) To visit every point in the Uk where 1 km grid squares intersect.


Not a summit bagging exercise, but one challenge I've heard of is to walk across the lake district on a straight E-W heading or a N-S heading. May sound easy but have a look at a map, NO SWIMMING!!!

FMCKIE wrote:The logistics of just getting to some Marilyns is part of the fun. It also takes you some really remote Islands. I reckon doing Marilyns (Sub2 ones) has been more rewarding and more of a challange than any of the more popular groups.(M,C,G & Donalds)

BTW : Like you though I dont fancy that one much although south of the border they dont exist to me :wink:


FMCKIE - I loved your recent island marilyn bagging post. Its not the height of the mountain that makes it but its approach, the walk up it and the view from the top !! I think your post proved this without a doubt.

Here's some walk reports on a marilyn in the Lakes. This small Marilyn (801ft) is surrounded by higher mountains well worth climbing, this 'fell' is usually driven by unnoticed, there are many more worthwhile fells to climb nearby.

1.... Went in Stealth Mode - dark clothing, folding bike and 6am start! Just 35 mins. From east side, follow 4x4 track to highest point and follow a faint path through wood to top.
2.... plenty of get off my land signs and hundreds of pheasants
3.... with this number of keep out private signs it is a bit of an open temptation - pleny of signs of grouse if not the gamekeepers - very easy ascent at the moment from the south east due to last year's felling - this is strictly private!
4.... Fence now back up after tree felling over winter. I jumped over the new double gated entrance without a keep out sign and use new track to ease access towards summit. Hill normally used to rear game birds.
5.... SOTA activation by stealth!

From the double gates I could be to the top well within 10 mins and probably back to the car!

Re: What is "your" hill?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:30 am
by Dave Hewitt
icemandan wrote:ii) To climb the munros in a single expedition in height or alphabetical order;


The first part of this has already been done, although admittedly not in a single expedition. Dave Purser climbed them in sequence from the lowest to the highest for his third round. This ended with - of course - Ben Nevis on 30 Sept 1995. I was there - it was a strong candidate for the foulest-weather day I've ever been on a hill, lashing rain throughout and big winds. On the drive there from Glasgow I passed a couple of trucks blown over on to their side on Rannoch Moor.
At one point on the way down, at the col near the halfway lochan, I was picked up by the wind and dumped several yards away. Needless to say, we met various ill-equipped tourists on the hill, including - and this was so stupid that it has stuck in my mind for the subsequent 15 years - a father literally dragging his wee boy uphill somewhere above the 3000ft contour. The poor boy was wearing trainers and some flimsy jacket and looking distinctly unhappy.
Pretty sure I wrote a piece about Dave P's round for TGO, but I don't have it to hand and it's not archived online. He had a couple of mad-but-entertaining days when he climbed hills that were adjacent in height but not in geography. I've a feeling he climbed some combination of Lurg Mhor, the In Pinn and the eastern Vorlich on the same day - they're 986m, 986m and 985m respectively - but can't recall the precise details offhand.

As to the alphabetical order thing, this has been discussed some time ago...
http://angrycorrie.110mb.com/Tac10/thebooka.htm