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Glen Affric havoc

Re: Glen Affric havoc

Postby Gythral » Fri May 12, 2017 3:44 pm

walkingpoles wrote:Fortunately there is no hydro schemeing at Alltbeithe hostel in Glen Afric yet.

Does anybody know how it will impact the moorland? No bog anymore or is there no impact on this?

I am astonished how much money has to be in there.


Also petland restoration is another money making scheme so only diverting some existing water through the sites
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Re: Glen Affric havoc

Postby BlackPanther » Fri May 12, 2017 6:45 pm

I see I opened Pandora's box here...

Thanks a lot for all comments. I have a special emotional bond with Glen Affric (personal reasons) and I felt like being stabbed in the heart when I walked past the building site...

Even if this hydro scheme will generate justifiable amounts of energy, I still think this is not the right place to build one. I can only hope that the scars heal in time. But it will take years.

At the moment I must warn anybody who is planning to do the Carn a' Choire Ghairbh and Aonach Shasuinn route from Glen Affric car park, that the start of the path turning off the main track along Allt Garbh is now under the piles of rubble from the building site and the detour looks very boggy and overgrown :(

As for trying to engage local politicians... They are now preoccupied with the coming Westminster elections :roll:

BobMcBob wrote: if the construction teams will actually remove or tidy up any of the appalling mess they've created, remains to be seen.


The whole area around the building site was "decorated" with rubbish: coke cans, food wraps, glass, paper, you name it, it's there. It doesn't speak well of the cleaning habits of the workers...
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Re: Glen Affric havoc

Postby prog99 » Fri May 12, 2017 7:14 pm

You'd hope that your msp shouldn't be occupied by such things?
I'd be prepared to write something.
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Re: Glen Affric havoc

Postby GillSte » Sat May 13, 2017 11:11 am

Good grief! I walked past there last year, and it seemed to be quite a tidy site. What a mess it is now...gruesome. If you climb the Corbetts, you'll see more construction work on the Glen Moriston side of the hill also.

The way forward is to report the messiest sites to Mountaineering Scotland, and also to the Local Authority. The hydro schemes have multiple restrictions imposed in the planning permission, such as maintaining access for hill walkers, environmental restrictions and restoration of the site post construction. If they breach this, the Local Authority can take enforcement action. You can find the planning permission documents on the Local Authority website.

I reported the Loch Eilde Mor scheme to Highland Council, where hill access was blocked, and got a good result, so I would strongly recommend taking action.

It's very sad to see so many of the wildest but less popular hills being devastated by hydro and wind power stations. It seems that the Corbetts and Grahams are seen as fair game for development, because so few people go there. We're losing the wilderness folks...
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Re: Glen Affric havoc

Postby GillSte » Sat May 13, 2017 11:15 am

BlackPanther wrote:I see I opened Pandora's box here...

At the moment I must warn anybody who is planning to do the Carn a' Choire Ghairbh and Aonach Shasuinn route from Glen Affric car park, that the start of the path turning off the main track along Allt Garbh is now under the piles of rubble from the building site and the detour looks very boggy and overgrown :(



At present, the better routes to the Corbetts are up the very fine stalkers path from the end of Loch Affric or from Cougie
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Re: Glen Affric havoc

Postby kmai1961 » Thu May 18, 2017 8:26 am

Somewhat fortuitous to this topic, there's an article in this month's Scottish Mountaineer about the Munro Society and Mountaineering Scotland joining forces to help monitor the success (or not) of restoration work that's meant to be done by hydro contractors. As many authorities lack the capacity to follow this up year on year, there's a call for volunteers to "adopt" a track and observe its progress every six months or so.

If there's a local track / hydro scheme that you visit several times a year, and you're interested in helping with this project (not much involved: take a photo or two and note the condition of the track), you can drop an email to info@mountaineering.scot
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Re: Glen Affric havoc

Postby Peedee » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:46 am

Sorry this is so late in the day, and it's maybe worth a separate topic, but here's an article exhorting all walkers to photograph diggers or other activity and either report it to LINK or to check with the local authority.

Oops - unfortunately this site won't let me post links, but if you google this....

proliferation-hill-tracks-stop-example-drumochter

It's really quite easy to check if they have approval for the work - I work as a volunteer for LINK looking for applications.

Essentially, nobody really checks up on estates. They sometimes don't reinstate to the standard promised, sometimes retrospectively ask for temporary access tracks to be made permanent and sometimes they just build tracks. Here is an article showing how the Cairngorm Park is having to fight to get Drumochter reinstated.

Google... cnpa-takes-action-drumochter-enough
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Re: Glen Affric havoc

Postby mynthdd2 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:31 am

......could they not be required to plant trees as part of the regeneration project there?
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Re: Glen Affric havoc

Postby Peedee » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:04 am

As per the second link, there is a requirement to plant a belt of trees, but the estate was trying retrospectively to remove that condition. CNPA has objected.
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Re: Glen Affric havoc

Postby BlackPanther » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:29 pm

Update!!!!!

After a recent visit to Glen Affric, I can see a dim light at the end of the tunnel. The area south of Loch Affric still looks far away from wild, but it has been tidied up a little bit, hopefully as soon as the construction work is finished, the nature will start to heal the scar.

A few photos (snaps from low quality camera - apologies for bad quality).
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Sadly, the layby by Chisholme Bridge, at the start of the traditional route to Tom a' Choinich and Toll Creagach, no longer exists. It has be plowed over and you can't park by the bridge anymore :(
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It is still possible to park in the old quarry a few hundred meters up the road, at least at the moment. It has been used recently as parking space for all the heavy machinery used in construction of hydro schemes, but last time we drove past, it was empty. Also the Forestry Commission car park in Glen Affric is open as usual, but this week access will be limited due to... some big Hollywood film maker shooting a movie down around the loch. I hope they don't film the hydro mess :wink:

"Due to filming taking place in the area between 21 and 27 March, there will be some restrictions within the car park. Please observe any signage and instructions from marshals."

One more note for those heading for Glen Affric, the Dog Falls car park is partially closed at the moment, as well, quoting Forestry Commission:
"works to the toilets and car park will be ongoing from the week commencing 19 February, so access may be limited."

Cheers all
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Re: Glen Affric havoc

Postby Coop » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:02 pm

Cheers BP.
OS415 just arrived through my letterbox. Plan on heading up Tom and Toll next month sometime.
Bummer about the parking near Chisolme bridge.
Looks like I'll be hoping there's space at 201233.

How can they just wipe a parking area off the map!!
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Re: Glen Affric havoc

Postby Peedee » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:19 pm

According to the CEO...

"Throughout the construction phase we will keep all car parks clear, and there will be no path closures. As part of the Abhainn Gleann nam Fiadh project we will provide a new path at Chisholm Bridge, tying into a new FES car park, which will provide a new low level circular walk,” Mathieson says."

And...

“Once the site is complete and fully remediated, there will be very little visual impact,” Mathieson concludes.
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Re: Glen Affric havoc

Postby Skyelines » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:58 pm

Peedee wrote:
“Once the site is complete and fully remediated, there will be very little visual impact,”


Environmental Impact Assessments always have this or similar sentences in them and planning committees for some reason fall for it.
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Re: Glen Affric havoc

Postby Peedee » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:32 pm

Belated Update - I was up there in June when they had allegedly remediated the road and it still looked pretty bad. Not least there was a lot of leftover plastic...
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I complained about this to the contractor, copied to Highland Council and got promises that it would be sorted. So if it's still there now (3 months later), feel free to complain again !
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Re: Glen Affric havoc

Postby mikebeattie1 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:39 pm

our country is slowly but surely getting eaten away with wind turbines hydro dams and the roads to services these things ..we are in a sorry state and we are losing the remoteness and wildness of our land for the sake of what they call green energy which in real terms is greed by land owners (who don't all stay in this country )and energy companies putting money and profit before all .. i feel sorry for our kids growing up in the next 20 years there will be nothing left no wild camping no bothies and you will more and likely be able to drive to our remote hills ... wonder what our ancestors would say
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