MRT callout

[gammy leg walker]

https://www.facebook.com/116932798502569/posts/1337303556465481/

Lost in the mist on The Cobbler,why were they there in the first place

[Sunset tripper]

Well done to Arrochar MRT.

Hopefully these numpties dont get everyone tarred with the same brush because the way things are going the pubs and nightclubs will be open before it is seen as acceptable to be back on the hills.

[LeithySuburbs]

To be fair, I'd pay a small fine to get out of Motherwell for the day.

[Sunset tripper]

To be fair, I'd pay a small fine to get out of Motherwell for the day.

Another option - take up golf.

[Csm8]

Jeez, I mean if your going to go out - especially at this time (well, anytime!) you’d think you would make sure your capable of basic hill skills.

[Fiona Reid]

Jeez, I mean if your going to go out - especially at this time (well, anytime!) you’d think you would make sure your capable of basic hill skills.

Indeed... but The Cobbler, Ben Lomond and Ben Nevis normally attract numpties and once folks can travel (these folks clearly shouldn't have travelled...and it's deservedly cost them a fair amount in fines etc) the same numpties will be there.

You can't prevent numpties being numpties.

[al78]

Jeez, I mean if your going to go out - especially at this time (well, anytime!) you’d think you would make sure your capable of basic hill skills.

I wonder if there is a complaceny that the UK does not have extremes (e.g. weather or mountains), therefore doing any activity in the UK can't be dangerous.

[Csm8]

Jeez, I mean if your going to go out - especially at this time (well, anytime!) you’d think you would make sure your capable of basic hill skills.

I wonder if there is a complaceny that the UK does not have extremes (e.g. weather or mountains), therefore doing any activity in the UK can't be dangerous.

That could be a part of it for sure...a bit like “avalanches don’t happen in Britain!”. Could also be partly due to a large increase in popularity for the hills over the last few years increases the likelihood of people getting into trouble. Or even this lock down has given people plenty time to reflect and take up new hobbies.

Have to say though that I wouldn’t judge anyone or speculate as to what their circumstances were. At the end of the day it could just of been a mistake. I once had my map blown away in the middle of the Fanniachs in thick clag

[al78]

Jeez, I mean if your going to go out - especially at this time (well, anytime!) you’d think you would make sure your capable of basic hill skills.

I wonder if there is a complaceny that the UK does not have extremes (e.g. weather or mountains), therefore doing any activity in the UK can't be dangerous.

That could be a part of it for sure...a bit like “avalanches don’t happen in Britain!”. Could also be partly due to a large increase in popularity for the hills over the last few years increases the likelihood of people getting into trouble. Or even this lock down has given people plenty time to reflect and take up new hobbies.

Have to say though that I wouldn’t judge anyone or speculate as to what their circumstances were. At the end of the day it could just of been a mistake. I once had my map blown away in the middle of the Fanniachs in thick clag

I don't think it helps to label paths as "tourist routes" as that implies it is easy and can lead to complacency (e.g. Ben Nevis).

[IainG]

I don't quite get exactly what risk these folk were presenting?

Changed days indeed, when a MRT, backed by the twee society out there, resorts to publicly shaming folk.

[al78]

I don't quite get exactly what risk these folk were presenting?

Changed days indeed, when a MRT, backed by the twee society out there, resorts to publicly shaming folk.

In those days we didn't have a global pandemic resulting in people being explicitly told not to do things like hiking up mountains, which puts them at risk of needing a callout, and puts the MRT at risk having to go out and rescue them. I guess people get p****d off by the rules-don't-apply-to-me brigade, who then expect others to bail them out when their rule breaking backfires on them.

[Glengavel]

I don't quite get exactly what risk these folk were presenting?

Changed days indeed, when a MRT, backed by the twee society out there, resorts to publicly shaming folk.

Arrochar MRT haven't named names or shown pictures of faces, so I can't see how they've been publicly shamed. And it wasn't as if they were forcibly rescued - I'm assuming they got lost and called for help?

[Josaff]

I don't quite get exactly what risk these folk were presenting?

Changed days indeed, when a MRT, backed by the twee society out there, resorts to publicly shaming folk.

well said mate! They may not have been publicly named but if they were i'm sure many on these forums would take great pleasure in posting those names around from their lofty self righteous perches. Folk are starting to get really fed up now especially i would imagine city dwellers when they are hit with stupid pointless "5 mile rules"

[IainG]

I don't quite get exactly what risk these folk were presenting?

Changed days indeed, when a MRT, backed by the twee society out there, resorts to publicly shaming folk.

In those days we didn't have a global pandemic resulting in people being explicitly told not to do things like hiking up mountains, which puts them at risk of needing a callout, and puts the MRT at risk having to go out and rescue them. I guess people get p****d off by the rules-don't-apply-to-me brigade, who then expect others to bail them out when their rule breaking backfires on them.

If you read the history of mountain rescue from it's original formations, teams headed out no matter the risk, and no matter what reasons were behind a person finding themselves in need of help.

Seems today that there is a complete lack of understanding of risk, with take 'no risk' being the now default position.

I'll bet this group needing help were only one of hundreds out on the hills. Next week will be pandemonium out there.

[IainG]

I don't quite get exactly what risk these folk were presenting?

Changed days indeed, when a MRT, backed by the twee society out there, resorts to publicly shaming folk.

well said mate! They may not have been publicly named but if they were i'm sure many on these forums would take great pleasure in posting those names around from their lofty self righteous perches. Folk are starting to get really fed up now especially i would imagine city dwellers when they are hit with stupid pointless "5 mile rules"

I completely agree. It's alright for folk with mountains on their doorstep, or who live in the country, or who even have a garden. Many folk have none of this and this lockdown must be an absolute nightmare for hill loving city dwellers.

The 5 mile rule, qualified as usual with 'I think', only applies to local activities. From what I can work out, it's a bit more liberal for visiting family etc. It's the usual patronising vagueness forced upon us, I'm afraid.

By the way, I should say, I'm abiding with the rules and fortunately I have good walking on my doorstep.