Thanks for all the information
SouthernUplandKing wrote:Can I come with you wherever your going ?
Joking aside, the quality and feel of Rab's bag's make me want to crawl into them and fall asleep. Wish I could afford one !
I think the Neutrino collection have a colour coding of their own and the Andes and Expedition bags are colour coded seperatley, so that would mean the high temp rated Neutrino bags would be green and then as the Neutrino bags get into colder ratings they are orange and red.
The Andes Bags are Orange and the Expedition Bags are red and are on a different colour code because they are for more extreme use in the greater ranges. Only explanation I can think of ? If anything I said makes any sense (it only really sound right in my head)
I have a head like that too.
rockhopper wrote:I tried my first wildcamp last April (hadn't been in a tent since the 1970's at BB) - wasn't sure whether I'd like it so didn't want to spend too much - tend to get cold so wanted a 3-4 season bag even for spring/summer - didn't want to get Down in case it got wet - didn't want it to be too heavy. In the end I went for
one of these : 3-4 season, comfort range 10 to -12 and extreme of -15. Don't think I'd want to go that low though. At 1.25kg it's not too bad.
I got one of the last year actually. I kept it for all of about 3 days before sending it back. However fantastic their bumf claims it is, I just couldn't see it being sufficient for anything other than 2 seasons. Patches of the filling had bunched up so much that bits of it were just the outer and inner material. Even when it wasn't bunched up it didn't seem to loft very much. Perhaps they have got some fantastic material than will keep you warm down to -15, but I'm more inclined to think anyone testing that would end up grumpy and/or dead.
dacky wrote:Mountain equipment bags are well worth a look,
Belgian_Hiker wrote:I'll second the vote for Mountain Equipment bags.
Steve B wrote:I would echo the comments on ME Glacier.
I'll have to have a look at Mountain Equipment some more. I'd pretty much discounted them due to the cost, and to a certain extent, the weight. Might be able to find a deal or two round about Christmas time though.
For a sleeping mat I've got a Pacific Outdoors Ether Thermo 6 which seems pretty decent. I've also just bought a big
aluminium foil camping mat from China which I intend to use as a tent footprint in the winter. It's very bulky but lightweight and I'm hoping it should offer a bit more protection from conduction heat transfer.
mrssanta wrote:I had a lhotse down sleeping bag for 25 years and it did me very well, finally replaced it last year with an Alpkit pipe dream half the weight and is excellent if you can get one! but they are not in stock very often.
Alpkit say they're expecting the Pipedream during January, so I might go for one of them. I do like the price (well, dislike is less than the other might be more accurate) but I would want to be sure their -17 claim is accurateish.
At the moment I use a Snugpak Softie Winter with a fleece liner or a Gelert 1200 coupled with a Tesco ultralight down summer bag. I've been okay in the Snugpak down to about -5 and about -2 with the Gelert/tesco combo. chances are both would be okay to go a bit lower, but this winter I want to do some high level camps where -15 or so is highly likely. Plus of course both my current setups come in around 2.5kg which aint that much fun to lug about.