NickScots wrote:So where's your one night high tops wild camp kit list then ?
They don't perform the same role. That's why I take them. You have to be prepared for a night out, even if you are not planning to camp out.
It's a pity you take a dim view of DofE Kit lists. They are based on Eric Langmuir's teachings.
My
kit list changes almost every time I go out. Last weeks list was in a 45L sack and comprised of this from what I recall:
Power Lizard Tent
Sphere spring bag
X-therm mat
Alpkit Gamma and e-lite+
Reactor stove, firesteel and gas
Cup, spoon, food
Down jacket, hat, down socks
Synthetic mitts and liner gloves
Camera, tripod
Map, compass
Water bottle, Pee bottle
Axe, crampons, trail blaze poles
Being prepared for an unexpected benightment isn't the issue if you've already got a tent and sleeping bag in your pack. I can understand taking a survival bag for a day trip, not for an overnighter when you've got a much more comfortable way to survive the night in your pack already!
I have nothing against Eric Langmuir or his guidance, however I do think the DofE kitlists are made to meet a specific requirement set which may not tie in with the individuals needs or preferences based on their own experience.
You do seem to be a wee bit defensive about this whole topic, and like Rudolph says you kind of brought it up so I'm confused by that response.
Anyhoo, I'll give up debating and finish with this: carry what you like, it's your call after all.