What's in your bag?

[DavieCharles]

My son and I have walked to two Bothies, our first was to Over Phawhope (after a night on Loch Skeen), the most recent being a walk to Peanmeanach after a night on Morar's stunning sands. I'm 40 and he's 12 so naturally I want to bear the biggest weight. On both of these trips I feel we carried far to much (trip 1 had breakfast in a tin x2, litres of water, gas canisters, solid fuels ...)

I do like to ensure I have a change of clothes for both us and waterproofs but, I'd like to know how we should pack better (I wanted to carry a tent but didn't as I wrongly assumed the bothies would always have room) so for ...

Overnight; going on the assumption the bothy may be full?
A one day walk; out and back 8 hour walk?

... If I were to tip your backpacks/rucksacks out, what would I find (apart from some slightly annoyed walkers )

[prog99]

Just how much water did you carry in?

[Michael Thomson]

Maybe you tell us what was in your pack and we can help decide on weight saving options?

On the first pass I'd say lose the tinned wet food, minimise the carried water (if you can't find water in the Galloway hills you're doing something wrong)
For a single overnighter one gas canister should be ample. I usually just carry a 100g canister for a two-nighter. If you need more, consider a more efficient stove.

If you're bothying then the solid fuel and obligatory bottle of whisky is standard issue but heavy. If you're going for the bothying experience then crack on, it's part of the culture, and if you have fuel and whisky you'll easily get a spot in the bothy!
If you're taking a tent, just plan a camping trip and forget the fuel and booze. If you want a failover in case the bothy is full, take a bivvy or plan the trip on a weekday when they are less busy.

Lots of options, all depends on your priorities and preferences.

[bydand_loon]

BERGAN
Montane Grand Tour 55 1290
SUB TOTAL 1290

ON BERGAN (Straps & Waistbelt Pockets)
Compass (Silva) 38
Knife/Handy tool 49
Water To Go Bottle (Empty) 155
Spectacles and hard case 65
Head Torch (Petzl Tikka XP2) 87
Lighter 13
SUB TOTAL 407

IN BERGAN Tarptent Scarp 1 (6 Easton + 4 V Pegs) 1553
(Accomodation) Sleeping bag + Silk liner 1636
Sleeping Mat (PO Ether Elite) 407
Pillow 191
Sit Mat (Exped) 129
J Cloth 1/4 10
SUB TOTAL 3926

IN BERGAN Cooker (Kovea Spider) 182
(Kitchen) Gas (full 230g) x 1 356
Windsheild (home made) +wee clip 41
Alpkit Mytipot (fry pan lid) 154
Insulated Cup (GSI Infinity 400ml) +3 days brew kit 217
Platapus 2lt (empty until required) 42
Diggers (Sea to Summit long handled spoon) 12
Scotchbrite 7
J Cloth 1/4 6
Lighter 13
Velcro Strap 8
Wee bottle Tabasco Sauce 45
Wee bottle fairy liquid 46
Wee bottle olive oil 45
SUB TOTAL 1174

IN BERGAN Goretex trousers (Mountain Equipment) 218
(Clothing) Down jacket (Marmot Ama Dablam) +Alpkit bag 689
T Shirt (Patagonia) 200
Spare socks x 1 (Dalgren Alpaca) 58
Spare Liner socks x 1 23
Spare pants x 1 (Paramo) 83
Spare trousers (Rab) 361
Cap (Fjallraven) 71
Camp Shoe (North Face Nuptse Mules) 236
Stuff Sack x 1(8L) 32
SUB TOTAL 1971

IN BERGAN Towel (summit) + net 119
(Hygene) Tooth brush/paste 45
Soap Flakes 14
Mirror 17
Trowel 51
Toilet Roll (+Alcohol Gel + Lighter in sealed bag) 165
Gehwol Foots Creams 70
Vaseline (for the Baws) 46
Stuff Sack (2L) 23
SUB TOTAL 550

IN BERGAN Rain cover for bergan (use osprey one) 96
(Random Stuff) First aid kit (Pills, Ticks and Cuts) 136
Sun Cream 35
Midge Rep 31
Repair Kit in Alpkit 2lt stuff sack 136
USB wall plug 47
Kindle (in waterproof bag) 261
Spare Bty Phone 30
Spare Bty Camera 15
SUB TOTAL 787

SUB TOTAL Bergan 1290
SUB TOTAL On Bergan 407
SUB TOTAL Accomodation 3926
SUB TOTAL Kitchen 1174
SUB TOTAL Clothing 1971
SUB TOTAL Hygene 550
SUB TOTAL Random 787
TOTAL WEIGHT CARRIED (without Food and Water) 10105

[Michael Thomson]

Uh oh spreadsheet alert!

A fine list, you could probably knock a couple of kilos off the baseweight without any drama, but I'm guessing that's a generic year-round list rather than season specific.

[bydand_loon]

Uh oh spreadsheet alert!

A fine list, you could probably knock a couple of kilos off the baseweight without any drama, but I'm guessing that's a generic year-round list rather than season specific.

even worse its actually the wrong speadsheet , i didnt actually know id posted it and dont know how to delete it, must have pressed the wrong button while mussing .

As i was giving it the once over i realised it hasnt been updated for months, trail and error has removed a few bits, (the NF mules were crap in early morning dew etc), aye its very much a three day or more list, for one night id dump all the extra clothes (except the down jacket a pair of socks and the water proofs) the powerbank and some and spare batteries

BERGAN
Montane Grand Tour 55 1290
SUB TOTAL 1290

ON BERGAN (Straps & Waistbelt Pockets)
Compass (Silva) 38
Knife/Handy tool 49
Water To Go Bottle (Empty) 155
Spectacles and hard case 65
Head Torch (Petzl Tikka XP2) 87
Lighter 13
SUB TOTAL 407

IN BERGAN (Accomodation)
Tarptent Scarp 1 (6 Easton + 4 V Pegs) 1553
Sleeping bag + Silk liner 1136
Sleeping Mat (PO Ether Elite) 407
Pillow 191
Sit Mat (Exped) 129
J Cloth 1/4 10
SUB TOTAL 3426

IN BERGAN (Kitchen)
Cooker (Kovea Spider) 182
Gas (full 230g) x 1 356
Windsheild (home made) +wee clip 41
Alpkit Mytipot (fry pan lid) 154
GSI Infinity 400ml mug) +3 days brew kit 217
Platapus 2lt (empty until required) 42
Diggers (S to S long handled spoon) 12
Scotchbrite 7
J Cloth 1/4 6
Lighter 13
Velcro Strap 8
Wee bottle Tabasco Sauce 45
Wee bottle fairy liquid 46
Wee bottle olive oil 45
SUB TOTAL 1174

IN BERGAN (Clothing)
Goretex trousers (Mountain Equipment) 218
Down jacket (Ama Dablam) +Alpkit bag 689
T Shirt (Patagonia) 200
Spare socks x 1 (Dalgren Alpaca) 58
Spare Liner socks x 1 23
Spare pants x 1 (Paramo) 83
Spare trousers (Rab) 361
Cap (Fjallraven) 71
Camp Shoe (vivobarefoot ultra) 160
Stuff Sack x 1(8L) 32
SUB TOTAL 1895

IN BERGAN (Hygene)
Towel (summit) + net 119
Tooth brush/paste 45
Soap Flakes 14
Mirror 17
Trowel 51
Toilet Roll (Alcohol Gel + Lighter) 165
Gehwol Foots Creams 70
Vaseline (for the Baws) 46
Stuff Sack (2L) 23
SUB TOTAL 550

IN BERGAN (Random Stuff)
Rain cover for bergan (use osprey one) 96
First aid kit (Pills, Ticks and Cuts) 136
Sun Cream 35
Midge Rep 31
Repair Kit 136
EasyAcc twin USB power bank 247
Kindle (in waterproof bag) 261
Spare Bty Phone 30
Spare Bty Camera 15
SUB TOTAL 987

SUB TOTAL Bergan 1290
SUB TOTAL On Bergan 407
SUB TOTAL Accomodation 3426
SUB TOTAL Kitchen 1174
SUB TOTAL Clothing 1895
SUB TOTAL Hygene 550
SUB TOTAL Random 987

TOTAL WEIGHT CARRIED (without Food and Water) 9729

[Shug]

My first multiday hike pack has
mountain hardware lamina 35 sleeping bag
vango 200 something tent
thermarest
vango inflatable pillow
trangia and fuel
firesteel, knife, spork, cup, wee trowel, lighter
noodles, rice pouch, cup a soup, sweets, dried fruit and nuts, macaroons, coffee, sugar, oatcakes, peanut butter, chorizo
fleece, spare socks, boxers, baselayers, hat, head net
smidge, painkillers, duct tape, plasters, hand sanitizer, toothpaste
hydration pouch
headtorch
travel towel
maps
compass

All weighs in at near 13kg, though the tent alone is about 2.5kg. Could do with getting the weight down a little, but the nice featherlight tents are a bit pricey for me.
And that doesnt include my camera. Good thing I'm only doing short distances per day.

[Giant Stoneater]

This is what I needed for a 6 day walk South to North Skye original Skye Walk.

One set of clothes for day walking.
One set of clothes for change at night.
2 pairs of socks
6 boxers god knows the state of one pair would be.
1 fleece.
1 waterproof jacket/trousers.
Midgie hood well its Scotland.
Cap.

65L Berghaus rucsac.
Tent Hilleberg Akto.
Thermarest mat.
ME sleeping bag.
2 walking poles.
2 Ltr Hydration pouch.
Headtorch.
Travel towel.
Maps printed route.
Compass.
GPS.
Spare batteries.
Camera.

One jetboil.
Large canister of gas.
2 sporks.
1 Swiss army knife.
1 small pot.
1 lighter

Scouring pad soaked in washing up liquid.
Packet of wipes for hygiene.
Toilet paper.
Midgie spray.
Antiseptic cream,bugs just love me.
Toothbrush/toothpaste.
Sun cream.

First 4 days food
Breakfast

Porridge mixed with dried milk and fruit.
Oat bars
Satchets of coffee.
Plenty of water.

Snacks throughout day.

Bananas.
Mixed nut and fruits.
Oat bars.
Oatcakes and cheese.
coffee.
Plenty of water.

Dinner

Hydrated meals.
Oatcakes and cheese.
coffee.
Plenty of water.

For entertainment look at the views and wander about then nice long sleeps.

No idea of weight,but once the first day is out the way,you don't really notice the weight.