F10 PCT 60:70
by scotsmist » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:03 am
Wondering if anyone else has this pack and their opinions, also a few questions if you are able to answer (not yet heard from AMG).
Wondering what the clip above the webbing grab handle between shoulder straps is for
Found a bunch of webbing inside the lid pocket, wondering what they are for (anything to do with the clip)
I'm having a hard time getting these F10 packs to fit/feel comfortable. This pack has the A1 system and I'm used to the more simple adjustment of Vango packs that has numbers in cms and know when the pack is right. I feel the F10 packs sit high up above my hips even at their longest length. My back is 52cm from hip to c7 so don't think I'm too tall. My Vango Contour 60:70 fits very comfortably at the 52cm setting.
Lots of daisy chains on this pack, front and at the sides. Also the side compression straps run through the inside of the wand pockets. the clips that hold the straps are attached to the front clam style pocket and appears to pull the zip cover away, exposing the zip. Anyone found this a problem (lame question, but my GR 35:40 doesn't have this issue).
Thanks in advance. Hoping/planning on using this pack to walk the WHW this weekend over 6/7 days wild camping with a banshee 200 and an ultralite pro 200....
by Sack the Juggler » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:06 pm
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by scotsmist » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:48 pm
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Thanks for replying
by scotsmist » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:33 pm
Still haven't figured out yet what the hook above the grab handle is for.
by Scottk » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:51 pm
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by scotsmist » Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:40 pm
There is a small velcro strap inside the pack and near the top for a bladder. The hook I'm having problems figuring out is on the outside, just above the webbing grab handle between the shoulder straps. There's a flap at the back of the floating lid. It sits below that.
Still no reply from Vango/AMG support who distribute Force Ten gear, hopefully tomorrow.
by davekeiller » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:52 pm
Alternatively if there's a suitably positioned strap it could be for either securing the main compartment or allowing gear to be held between the main compartment and the lid (lots of mountaineering rucksacks have this as it allows stowing of a rope or crampons).
The webbing looks like straps to allow a tent or rollmat to be strapped to the outside of the rucksack - look for something that they might thread through - typically on the to of the lid.
by scotsmist » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:55 am
There's an additional strap under the lid thats for tying stuff down such as my tent, an with the lid being floating is perfect for my tent, however the position of this g-hook type clip is on the ouside and behind the flap that attaches the lid. So i'm not convinced its for securing items in the main compartment.
I'm hedging along the lines of it being for securing something to the lid, but with only one g-clip, can't figure out what that might be.
I think you are spot on about the webbing, perhaps a z-style between the various daisy chains, or as you suggest, strapping something like a roll mat, since there are two plastic d clips at the bottom of the pack, near the ice axe loops. Some sort of customisable rigging, it says on the vango site description.
Thanks for taking the time to answer.
Still no word from AMG/Vango or the seller (Outdoorgear).
by gaffr » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:53 am
e.g. the straps provided for winter tools …..I use the compression type straps for my axe it then can be reached without having to remove the sack.
by scotsmist » Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:15 am
I'm a bit reluctant about cutting my extra belts especially when still under warranty (3 years with Vango) but certainly have with older packs and have always cut extra webbing with cheaper new packs.
What's melting my melon at the moment is how little information Vango put out regarding their gear. Most info I've came across is other people reviewing their purchase, although often although they are just mimicking the sales spec sheet.
Osprey are as bad and some of their packs are imo dreadful. They just make far too many different designs. Most of the big brand names are equally guilty.
Wouldn't it be great if we could just but a basic pack and then customize it to our needs...