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Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby HalfManHalfTitanium » Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:39 pm

Glengavel wrote:Thanks, Alistair MacLean was one of my first literary loves, much to my English teacher's horror. If he had never written another word after HMS Ulysses he'd have been feted as one of the greats, His output declined in quality as the years went by, but he could fairly get the pulse racing.

FS has been applied to many but JG was one of the earliest.


No idea about FS or JG, but I totally agree re Alistair MacLean!

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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Glengavel » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:53 am

Another FS was EL.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby CharlesT » Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:15 pm

Glengavel wrote:
Glengavel wrote:Thanks, Alistair MacLean was one of my first literary loves, much to my English teacher's horror. If he had never written another word after HMS Ulysses he'd have been feted as one of the greats, His output declined in quality as the years went by, but he could fairly get the pulse racing.

FS has been applied to many but JG was one of the earliest.


Other FS include GO.

Graeme Obree was christened the Flying Scotsman. Am I on the right track, as it were? 😁
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Sgurr » Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:26 pm

EL is Eric Liddell
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby CharlesT » Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:52 pm

Sgurr wrote:EL is Eric Liddell

I had that too, but JG eludes me.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Glengavel » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:26 pm

Well done. JG is Hawick motorcycle racer Jimmie Guthrie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmie_Guthrie

I proclaim Charles the winner - over to you.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby CharlesT » Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:11 am

Glengavel wrote:Well done. JG is Hawick motorcycle racer Jimmie Guthrie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmie_Guthrie

I proclaim Charles the winner - over to you.

Thank you, I would never have found the latter,. Every Google search for Flying Scotsman (howsoever framed) produced reams of information on some locomotive, seemingly the only thing the Google gnomes considered of interest.

Any easy one for Advent.

MBMF has been unjustly denigrated.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby CharlesT » Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:42 am

Misrepresented by a later English pensman for political purposes, the real story is far more interesting and complicated than that portrayed.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby CharlesT » Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:52 am

To be strictly correct I should have written MBmF, if that helps.

In English it would just M.

Say not in luvvie circles.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Sgurr » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:23 am

Mac Bethad mac Findlaích; , or in English, Macbeth. Couldn't agree with you more since I read a book whose title I have now forgotten.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby CharlesT » Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:41 pm

Sgurr wrote:Mac Bethad mac Findlaích; , or in English, Macbeth. Couldn't agree with you more since I read a book whose title I have now forgotten.


Yes, Shakespeare always seems to err on the side of pleasing the incumbent ruler. In this case James VI and I, purportedly a descendant of Malcolm III via the Bruce and Stewart lines.

Given Macbeth ruled, more or less peacefully, for 17 years, a long period for those times, I think he has been grossly misrepresented. All Holinshead's fault for pursuing fiction over fact. Nothing changes eh?

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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Sgurr » Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:20 pm

One of the first real antiquarian books we got in our shop was a Holinshead, but alas it was lacking a title page and an early partner took it with her (probably grossly over-valued) as part of her settlement when we bought her out. She later went on to run Titles in The Turl in Oxford, which you may have come across in your part of the world with husband after the job he went south for packed up, so we never had to have that incipient row over pricing (her sky high and me dirt cheap) that would have ripped us apart.


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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Sgurr » Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:23 pm

The SC became the ACSB
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Sgurr » Mon Dec 06, 2021 7:01 pm

In time the ACSB became the IOCPC
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Sgurr » Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:43 pm

You get all these collections of initials in the WCC
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