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Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby HalfManHalfTitanium » Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:43 pm

Sgurr wrote:Now looking at Cashel, Clonmel and Cork, all of which have been called Royal Boroughs at one time for standing up to Cromwell, but can't find any JBs except for James Butler who put up a fight against Cromwell, but sems to have no Scots connections whatsoever. This is a probe, not an answer.


or Rotten Boroughs perhaps?...
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby RICHARDCFF » Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:47 pm

HalfManHalfTitanium wrote:
Sgurr wrote:Now looking at Cashel, Clonmel and Cork, all of which have been called Royal Boroughs at one time for standing up to Cromwell, but can't find any JBs except for James Butler who put up a fight against Cromwell, but sems to have no Scots connections whatsoever. This is a probe, not an answer.


or Rotten Boroughs perhaps?...


HMHT has made a significant breakthrough there, though no cigar as yet... :)
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Sgurr » Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:45 pm

Is it James Macpherson who had the rotten borough of Camelford, in Cornwall (Celtic connections) and was famous for "translating" Ossian.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby RICHARDCFF » Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:57 am

Sgurr wrote:Is it James Macpherson who had the rotten borough of Camelford, in Cornwall (Celtic connections) and was famous for "translating" Ossian.


Correct! James Machperson of Ossian fame came in for Camelford in the 1780 election as 'arranged by the Government... at a cost of £4000', holding one of the two seats in the tiny borough containing about 20 voters, until his death in 1796.

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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Sgurr » Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:59 am

I was handed the Rotten Boroughs, or would never have got it.

1 x 7 trumps 10 in the case of MG
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Sgurr » Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:30 am

That's because MG is very important
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Sgurr » Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:05 am

This only hit the news very recently.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby rohan » Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:34 pm

Sgurr wrote:This only hit the news very recently.


If it was in the last week,I've nae chance as was on a 4 day off grid walk along the Watershed. (plus 2 days bus travel either end) It was superb.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Glengavel » Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:40 am

Is this a political thing? 10 = Number 10?
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Sgurr » Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:29 am

It s about a politician, but 10 isn't anything to do with Number 10.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Sgurr » Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:56 am

It's as a consequence of attending the CLF
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Glengavel » Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:26 pm

I guessed MG might be Michael Gove, who is, by some definitions of the word, Scottish, so after a bit of research:

Michael Gove attended the Champions League Final last month, was potentially exposed to COVID and had to self-isolate. Rather surprisingly :roll: a new pilot scheme meant he only had to self isolate for one day and have daily tests for a week, rather than self-isolate for ten days.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Sgurr » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:18 pm

Spot on Glengavel. Born in Aberdeen, went to Robert Gordons and served a stint on the Press and Journal: I think that qualifies as more Scottish than me. I have only lived here since 1964 though kids and grandkids mostly speak with a Scots accent. At least, I didn't go to Eton. I found it unsurprising that as a Cabinet Minister he was allowed to have 7 x 1 tests as opposed to the full Monty of 10 days quarantine.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby rohan » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:32 pm

Sgurr wrote:Spot on Glengavel. Born in Aberdeen, went to Robert Gordons and served a stint on the Press and Journal: I think that qualifies as more Scottish than me. I have only lived here since 1964 though kids and grandkids mostly speak with a Scots accent. At least, I didn't go to Eton. I found it unsurprising that as a Cabinet Minister he was allowed to have 7 x 1 tests as opposed to the full Monty of 10 days quarantine.


Aberdeen has some famous sons and daughters that they make more of than Gove so much so I was taken aback a few years ago to discover that he was an Aberdonian. The PnJ possibly celebrates him but I haven't read particular rag since its appalling sycophantic support for Trump due to the editor being married to Trumps executive vice -president. Nb I did miss this piece of news whilst I was away, can't say I 'm sorry!
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Glengavel » Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:09 am

JMS played a pivotal role in O
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