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Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby Sgurr » Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:47 pm

Clan Turnbull was a pretty rowdy clan and maybe the biggest in the Scottish Borders,
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby CharlesT » Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:28 pm

Sgurr wrote:Clan Turnbull was a pretty rowdy clan and maybe the biggest in the Scottish Borders,

I couldn't possibly comment, but it's not Clan Turnbull and we're not in the Borders but more central.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby CharlesT » Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:01 pm

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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby rohan » Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:08 am

Crieff Tryst or Crieff Drovers Tryst?
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby rohan » Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:13 am

rohan wrote:Crieff Tryst or Crieff Drovers Tryst?


Aka Michaelmas Market with lots of rowdieness and drunkeness, some maybe finding themselves on the Kind Gallows o' Crieff.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby CharlesT » Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:21 am

rohan wrote:
rohan wrote:Crieff Tryst or Crieff Drovers Tryst?


Aka Michaelmas Market with lots of rowdieness and drunkeness, some maybe finding themselves on the Kind Gallows o' Crieff.

Wholly correct. Thought the handsome coo (probably a bull actually) might do it. Your go.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby rohan » Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:37 am

CharlesT wrote:
rohan wrote:
rohan wrote:Crieff Tryst or Crieff Drovers Tryst?


Aka Michaelmas Market with lots of rowdieness and drunkeness, some maybe finding themselves on the Kind Gallows o' Crieff.

Wholly correct. Thought the handsome coo (probably a bull actually) might do it. Your go.


Thank-you, I was totally in the dark until your picture clue and the light went on. I had to google
a bit to get the Kind Gallows though.

This should go quick. "Improvements" led to MM being better known in death rather than life
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby CharlesT » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:23 pm

I'll hazard Michael Marra.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby rohan » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:39 pm

CharlesT wrote:I'll hazard Michael Marra.


Sorry, no and whilst a hazard was involved and Michael Marra's words from Hermless "Hermless, hermless,
There's never nae bother frae me" could probably be applied to my subject you are way off.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby CharlesT » Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:17 am

Marilyn Monroe had Scottish ancestry but I guess that's not the answer either.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby rohan » Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:26 am

CharlesT wrote:Marilyn Monroe had Scottish ancestry but I guess that's not the answer either.


No, both your suggestions were far younger and lived more recently than the subject who was only known in her local community during her long life. Further it was the way of her death, not the way of her life that made her more widely known.
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby CharlesT » Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:52 pm

Is it Margaret Maclauchlan, one of the Wigtown Martyrs?
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby RICHARDCFF » Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:54 am

... or Margaret McKay, died aged 90 in 1814 at Badinloskin, Strathnaver during a Clearance?
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby rohan » Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:04 am

CharlesT wrote:Is it Margaret Maclauchlan, one of the Wigtown Martyrs?


Not her
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Re: Can I have a "P" please Bob - Scotland (2nd edition)

Postby rohan » Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:17 am

RICHARDCFF wrote:... or Margaret McKay, died aged 90 in 1814 at Badinloskin, Strathnaver during a Clearance?


Indeed. Margaret Mackay was bedridden and in the family croft when on the instructions of the estate factor, Peter Sellar, the croft was set alight. Her family did manage to pull her from the building but she died 6 days later. The so called "improvements" then became so much more controversial as the circumstances of her death were reported widely.. Peter Sellsr was later acquitted of culpable homicide.
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