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Herebe a link tae a rather different approach tae this wee hill - in mair ways than wan...

http://www.scottishhills.com/html/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=8944

Oh dear, this hill is getting a reputation as a last stand of the GOML's (get off my land). For that reason I have avoided it so far, the cattle I can get around, but Goml venom isnt nice...

RTC wrote: The farmer with the chain saw glared at me. He had a face like a bulldog licking p*** off a nettle. I decided to take the initiative and asked him if it was OK for me to walk this way. "Depends where you are going" he said. "Up the hill" I said. "Its not suitable because we have a lot of stock" he said. I pointed out that there was not a single farm animal in sight. - There was a lot of snow about. He then agreed to let me continue. It was not a pleasant experience. I'll not be back.

He sounds like my man - he referred to his "stock" at a couple of points too, and as for the description of his face, it's him down to a T.

The farmer got **** off at you because his sheep are ready to lamb and undue stress can cause spontaneous abortion, even this late. That's why he was shouting at you to get over the ******* fence. Just saying...

Great report....... made me laugh out loud. I feel the need to bag this hill now, together with a large group of like minded walkers and all with tin hats, of course !

I do feel a bit sorry for farmers. I read recently that they had started a messaging service to each other, and the top topic, due to isolation, is mental health issues. It doesn't surprise me if one or two of them become a bit paranoid (not that this guy is necessarily being so). It is a well known side effect of isloation. We once had to go into Raigmore when husband had tripped in a river and we thought he had broken a collarbone. It was well past midnight by the time he was seen, as a farmer had tried to top himself, and then tried to discharge himself with arms full of drips etc. and it took all the staff to cope with him.

So funny reading this just now, 4 years later its still a recurring issue.

Met this guy today while attempting to bag Turin Hill from the north. This is one of those Sub-2000s they don't want anyone near and so hinder any attempt with electric fencing, crazy stalker cows and zero parking to speak of. Its best to get it climbed and then be happy you never have to return to it and put up with the BS, which is a disappointment because it is a nice hill

My encounter with the infamous GOML Farmer on Turin hill.

Half way back down and heading through fences a bald man with a rather uncompromising face appeared, wading through the morass on his quid bike, he stopped in front of me. I made no attempt to not be seen (why should I? My intentions where perfectly innocent) and said cheerfully, "hello, sir!", "Can I help you?" he said rather scornfully and I could infer annoyance but I couldn't have cared less. He seemed rather confused as to how I got there and where I intended to go, he said he was worried about the "beasts" trampling me and I explained that I was nowhere near the beasts and that he should not worry. I get the impression he see's the whole hill bagger's v farmers, situation, as a test of wills rather than compromising and providing a non-intrusive path up the hill for daft baggers like myself who otherwise would have no business being there, after all I'm not interested in the farm in the slightest I just want to get the hill bagged and get out the farmers way.

Oh well... I really do Feel sorry for Sub-2000 baggers, they put up with so much BS just to get these wee hill's climbed sometimes, but no matter what, we get them done.

Great report, very funny.

CatoTheYounger wrote: a bald man with a rather uncompromising face appeared

It's uncanny! This guy is becoming a living legend in the world of Nimbyism.

Graeme D wrote:

CatoTheYounger wrote: a bald man with a rather uncompromising face appeared

It's uncanny! This guy is becoming a living legend in the world of Nimbyism.

I think he is more of a GOML than a NIMBY. Husband and I psyched ourselves up to bag a notorious Marilyn whose name I have now forgotten, and were strangely disappointed to find it had changed hands and WALKERS WELCOME notices were everywhere.
We have also booked a cottage in the grounds of another (in England) just so we could get up "their" hill, only to be told we mustn't go there as it would disturb the pheasants. Pheasants seemed not to mind at 5 a.m. however. It's the military ones I am more concerned about, as I really don't want to be shot, and know that my next of kin would have no come-back as they are NEVER in the wrong. Thank heavens they are few and far between, and I think , with Mickle Fell done a few weeks ago, we have now done them all. One of the islands off Lewis is now a bit problematical, as the locals with boats don't necessarily want to get on the wrong side of someone they have to live with by dumping us off to climb them, whatever the access laws say, and it has just changed hands.

Hi. As far as I'm aware the right of way up Turin hill is Via the Weymess (don't quote me on that)
The farmer up Turin hill Mr Jolly Snr who has a Masters in misery and his son Jolly Jnr. who is aspiring to be like his father. Neither of them know how to talk to normal everyday people. Think it's something to do with them never coming down from the hill to converse with normal people. Could be wrong. They speak to everyone like that, Work men, Postie, Neighbours, other farmers and Hill walkers, so don't take it personally.
As for your Dog being on a lead etc he needs reminding that his dogs run lose all the time. They went next door, into their neighbours garden, broke into the chickens run and killed them all. That's OK though because it's his hill, his air space, his oxygen and the neighbours privately owned houses. Its all his. The army used to use the hill as a shooting range until Jolly kicked them off.

Maybe you could just book up his holiday cottage(s) with "Ramblers" (and dogs if permitted) then all head up and down HIS hill