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Culardoch & Carn Liath

Culardoch & Carn Liath


Postby Gordie12 » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:28 pm

Route description: Culardoch and Creag an Dail Bheag, Keiloch

Corbetts included on this walk: Creag an Dail Bheag, Culardoch

Date walked: 01/11/2014

Time taken: 5.3 hours

Distance: 24 km

Ascent: 1145m

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Forecast for today seemed quite good, cooler than yesterday and windy on the tops so a good day to bag a couple of Corbetts that I've been after for some time now.

Parked up at Keiloch, £3 paid and walking for 7.30.

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Only car in the car park


A bit of tarmac to start the day as I head for the back of Invercauld House and take the ROW (Tomintoul via Loch Builg) heading uphill through the wood. After about 100 yards I ignored a right turn and continued to climb on the main track as it zig zagged on an easy incline with the wind whipping the tops of the trees whilst remaining flat calm at ground level.

Just a case of staying on the main track until it leaves the trees behind and continues on the open moor.

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About half a mile on the open moor the waymarked route heads off uphill to the right and my route continues straight on, through a gate, then linking up with a larger track climbing up from the left. Shortly after linking up with this larger track I got my first view of Culardoch.

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A distant Culardoch


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Something really strange happened as the track started to drop down towards Allt Cul - the sun came out (it's been a while) :lol: :lol:

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After the Allt Cul the track starts to climb as it heads for the bealach between Culardoch and Carn Liath. A lot of the climbing is being done now but it's on a wide smooth track and it makes for a very easy climb.

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Culardoch getting closer


On reaching the bealach I headed over to have a nosey at the heather cages.

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After passing the cages I headed over to the main track and followed it for a short distance to the point where it took a sharp left and I headed on an older track heading up Culardoch. After another 50 yards at a small cairn I left the track behind and followed a narrow path more directly uphill. The gradient was OK and the walking was fairly easy until being hit by the wind close to the top.

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Culardoch summit


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Culardoch summit


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Looking down on the track


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Loch Builg


Retraced my steps back to the heather cages and on down the track to the point where I needed to head up Carn Liath. The narrow path can be seen when descending Culardoch so it is easy to find and I headed over to a short boggy bit.

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Bog ahead


The bog is very easy to cross and whilst the gradient gets harder it's never difficult and it doesn't take long to reach the cairn at 857m then the current summit then the top beyond which may well be the highest point (as per WH walk report).

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Current top


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Future top?


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Back at the 857m cairn


I then retraced my steps back to the main track.

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Culardoch on the descent of Carn Liath


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The long walk back


All that was left now was a very pleasant wander back with a gradual drop down to the Allt Cul followed by the last climb of the day for half a mile after the crossing of the Allt.

I have a thing about photographing dead trees, I simply can't walk past them without getting the camera out (checked other reports -others have the same problem :lol: ).

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Life and death


Have to say, great day, really good couple of hills these.

Walking time 5hrs 9mins with 11 mins searching for sandwiches in my rucksack and taking photos (not to mention searching for the shades that haven't been seen since September).
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Re: Culardoch & Carn Liath

Postby Silverhill » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:33 pm

Looks like a fab walk. There is a simple beauty to this part of the Cairngorms, no bells, whistles, or frills. :D Great that the sun came out for you!
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Re: Culardoch & Carn Liath

Postby Huff_n_Puff » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:23 pm

Love the dead tree - is there treatment for the urge to photograph them :lol:

Looks a good walk. :clap:
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Re: Culardoch & Carn Liath

Postby Gordie12 » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:52 pm

Silverhill wrote:Looks like a fab walk. There is a simple beauty to this part of the Cairngorms, no bells, whistles, or frills. :D Great that the sun came out for you!


Hi Silverhill - not everyone's cup of tea but I love walking in the Gorms.
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Re: Culardoch & Carn Liath

Postby Gordie12 » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:55 pm

Huff_n_Puff wrote:Love the dead tree - is there treatment for the urge to photograph them :lol:

Looks a good walk. :clap:


Leave the camera at home?

Yip, a nice walk, no great exertions but great scenery all around (but no views of Ben Avon due to the low cloud).
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Re: Culardoch & Carn Liath

Postby Johnny Corbett » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:28 pm

I may be wrong but i think Creag an Dail Bheag is now the Corbett here. Both this and Carn Liath were 862m but after remeasurement, the latter became 861.5 and CaDBs height was 863m. It gets a bit confusing when they start messing about with the heights so again i may be wrong. :?
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Re: Culardoch & Carn Liath

Postby jmarkb » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:53 pm

Johnny Corbett wrote:I may be wrong but i think Creag an Dail Bheag is now the Corbett here. Both this and Carn Liath were 862m but after remeasurement, the latter became 861.5 and CaDBs height was 863m. It gets a bit confusing when they start messing about with the heights so again i may be wrong. :?


You are correct about the resurvey - see here for details: http://www.rhb.org.uk/reports/sco20130926.pdf
The SMC still haven't updated the "official" list, though: http://www.smc.org.uk/corbetts/CorbettsTable.php
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Re: Culardoch & Carn Liath

Postby Beaner001 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:00 pm

Great wee read Gordie, these are in my neck of the woods so would like to get a day out on these, cheers
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Re: Culardoch & Carn Liath

Postby Gordie12 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:19 pm

Thanks JC/jmarkb - I'm glad now I carried on and covered all the possible tops (the top on Creag an Dail Bheag does look slightly higher but I've thought that before and been completely wrong).
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Re: Culardoch & Carn Liath

Postby Gordie12 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:21 pm

Beaner001 wrote:Great wee read Gordie, these are in my neck of the woods so would like to get a day out on these, cheers


Hi Beaner001 - you live local, no excuse, go triple your Corbett count :lol: :lol:
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Re: Culardoch & Carn Liath

Postby Fife Flyer » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:47 pm

Nice one Gordie enjoyed that, interested in the heather cages - what are they?

Sun didn't appear for me in Perthshire on Saturday :( Was a bit cold & blowy on the summits too :wink:
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Re: Culardoch & Carn Liath

Postby larry groo » Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:59 pm

Blimey....

I've never seen the car park that empty!!

:lol:
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Re: Culardoch & Carn Liath

Postby Gordie12 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:40 pm

Fife Flyer wrote:Nice one Gordie enjoyed that, interested in the heather cages - what are they?

Sun didn't appear for me in Perthshire on Saturday :( Was a bit cold & blowy on the summits too :wink:


Hi FF

Everything you wanted to know about the experiment (or perhaps slightly more than you wanted to know?).

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2664.2006.01251.x/full

I enjoyed walking MT and Farragon Hill last year, great views over to Schiehallion.
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Re: Culardoch & Carn Liath

Postby Gordie12 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:43 pm

larry groo wrote:Blimey....

I've never seen the car park that empty!!

:lol:


Hi larry groo - was surprised myself as I thought there would have been a lot of early starters with the limited hours at this time of year. Only half a dozen cars in the car park when I got back at 1pm but I noticed a number of bike racks so maybe a Ben Avon non-purists day :lol:
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