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Cuillen not to be

Cuillen not to be


Postby yorkierem » Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:43 am

Date walked: 05/08/2019

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:( Not a very good attempt with a guide on the Cuillin. We had booked a 5 day course through Skye mountain
guides and met Jonah Jones on 5/8/19 to start the Cuillin ridge. The first day went to plan and completed the 3 Munros
Sgurr nan Gillean, Am Basteir, and Bruach na Frithe. The walk with Jonah was fantastic and we much appreciated his knowledge and expertise in that area. We walked down so far and let him go off on his own due to him having car problems.
We met in the Sligachan hotel for a drink to round off the day. The weather for Tues was exceptional and Jonah suggested that we had paid for Blaven and with his car issues we could do without him ! . Probably would have been better doing the middle 3 but we took his words and completed Blaven.
On Wed we received a early call from him saying " sorry guys but thunderstorms and lightening coming " , we checked all available weather sites online and no such weather due that day. We were a little off put so we set out and completed the southern 2 Munros on the Cuillin , Sgurr Dubh Mor and Sgurr nan Eag. Which we enjoyed even though a tough slog.
We waited for his text after leaving Glen Brittle and it came stating that Thurs was a great forecast and we were set to do the
In Pinn and Sgurr Mhic Choinnich . Were happy with that and replied telling him we had completed the southern 2 on our own and meet at the starting point as arranged. He replied again saying "oh" I was out on a rescue ? We checked online and no rescues that day so sounding odd to us.
We checked the weather and as told it was going to be sunny but Friday was going to be a complete washout with over 100mm of rain coming our way. We knew then that the walk on Thurs was going to be our last with Jonah.
We turned up at the memorial hut in Glen Brittle as told to only to be met by a friend of Jonah's " telling us he was badly and on the loo all night ". But he will be in touch with you to explain . We handed over the climbing apparatus and he gave us our money back . Which was very honourable yet didn't really please us because only 1 day out of 5 with our guide was not what we planned.
We were stuck then with a dilemma , do we try the middle 3 without helmets or guide or do we pack up in Portree in good
weather and drive 11 hours back to Scarborough ? We chose to go because of the bad feelings left by Jonah and also because of the pending weather.
We have tried to contact Jonah about the reasons etc in e-mails , texts but he has not had the decency to contact us regarding the whole episode. The guide is a very good person in this field of mountains and would not tell anyone not to use him but his manners are appalling and it leaves us saddened after driving 1500 miles to complete or try to complete the ridge. Yes the weather would have cut us a bit but we could have done the middle 3 and the famous In Pinn and probably come back another time perhaps to complete.
Thanks Jonah Jones of Skye Mountain Guides for the 1 days climbs .
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Re: Cuillen not to be

Postby Sgurr » Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:21 am

You can't really know for absolute sure what happened. Re checking about Mountain Rescue. We KNOW a guy fell to his death from Sharp Edge as a friend was in the same party, but nothing on-line for 4 days. It must be very hard as a one person outfit to honour all his bookings, even though they are all fit, and usually healthy. I would therefore be inclined to book with an outfit such as Skye Guides where there might possibly be a little leeway. Really sorry you didn't get your three mountains, but "the mountains will always be there, the trick is to make sure you are too."
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Re: Cuillen not to be

Postby gaffr » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:45 am

Don't how it is with these arrangements for being guided on technical ground? Do you pay on the day for the experience or is a payment in advance for the entire week?
You say that payment was refunded for the days that didn't take place but not for the entire week?
Always difficult with poor weather conditions for days out on technical ground.
I guess if you were seriously unhappy about events that happened during the week then you would want to know more about the weeks events.
If the days out were with a Mountain Guide this wouldn't happen and you would probably contact the association etc.
If the days out were with MIC person again this would not happen, alternative arrangements would somehow be organised. You might want to check things out with the Governing Body for such activities.
I would say that with reputation of the person involved that airing things on the Forum is maybe not the best approach?
Whatever, all of these folks have reputations to consider, in what must be a precarious way to earn a living.
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Re: Cuillen not to be

Postby yorkierem » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:59 am

Yes we payed for the full week on the day of meeting the guide and he very honourably paid back for the none completion peaks. Booked a year in advance and if the weather was an issue we did two walks and 3 peaks in good weather and only got 1 day out with the guide after very odd reasons . The mentioned guide is a top class guide and scaled the In Pinn nearly 1000 times but all we were asking for was why did he keep crying off ? We only put a post on so hopefully he can read it and maybe explain. The emails we have sent and calls and texts do not seem to get any response and we only wanted explanations. Cheers
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