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Can I have a 'P' please Bob - Scotland

Re: Can I have a 'P' please Bob - Scotland

Postby HalfManHalfTitanium » Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:35 pm

CharlesT wrote:Clue time. A careful perusal of those depicted on the Scott Monument may offer some help.


Smollett is I think on the Scott Monument? And his initials would be TGS (Tobias George).

But I don’t get the rest of the clue - I suspect it is not about Smollett, but about Scott’s novels, which I’m not familiar with.

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Re: Can I have a 'P' please Bob - Scotland

Postby CharlesT » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:51 am

HalfManHalfTitanium wrote:
CharlesT wrote:Clue time. A careful perusal of those depicted on the Scott Monument may offer some help.


Smollett is I think on the Scott Monument? And his initials would be TGS (Tobias George).

But I don’t get the rest of the clue - I suspect it is not about Smollett, but about Scott’s novels, which I’m not familiar with.

Tim

Not Smollett and not related to Scott's novels.
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Re: Can I have a 'P' please Bob - Scotland

Postby CharlesT » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:31 am

Another clue. TGS subsequently became the first Scottish production of its nature. Its progenitor also,produced a renowned eponymous scion.
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Re: Can I have a 'P' please Bob - Scotland

Postby HalfManHalfTitanium » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:24 am

A wild guess, the first Scottish opera was I think The Gentle Shepherd?

But no idea about the other aspects of the clue I'm afraid

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Re: Can I have a 'P' please Bob - Scotland

Postby CharlesT » Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:19 am

HalfManHalfTitanium wrote:A wild guess, the first Scottish opera was I think The Gentle Shepherd?

But no idea about the other aspects of the clue I'm afraid

Tim

So far, so good. Should not be too hard to find the rest working from there.
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Re: Can I have a 'P' please Bob - Scotland

Postby Sgurr » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:36 pm

!/2 M 1/2 T should get this as any fule wot no how to google can find that it was dedicated to Susanna Montgomery, Lady Eglinton
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Re: Can I have a 'P' please Bob - Scotland

Postby CharlesT » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:51 pm

Sgurr wrote:!/2 M 1/2 T should get this as any fule wot no how to google can find that it was dedicated to Susanna Montgomery, Lady Eglinton


Correct, a great beauty of her day and at six feet tall must have cut an imposing figure. The Gentle Shepherd was a play written by the poet Allan Ramsey, later turned into the first Scottish opera. Allan Ransey is among those portrayed on the Scott Monument and was the father of Allan Ramsey the famed portrait painter.

I'll leave you to fight it out with Tim as to who goes next.
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Re: Can I have a 'P' please Bob - Scotland

Postby Sgurr » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:45 pm

Tim goes next...it's obvious he did the bulk of the sleuthing.
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Re: Can I have a 'P' please Bob - Scotland

Postby CharlesT » Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:53 pm

Sgurr wrote:Tim goes next...it's obvious he did the bulk of the sleuthing.


Over to you then, Tim.
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Re: Can I have a 'P' please Bob - Scotland

Postby HalfManHalfTitanium » Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:17 pm

CharlesT wrote:
Sgurr wrote:!/2 M 1/2 T should get this as any fule wot no how to google can find that it was dedicated to Susanna Montgomery, Lady Eglinton


Correct, a great beauty of her day and at six feet tall must have cut an imposing figure. The Gentle Shepherd was a play written by the poet Allan Ramsey, later turned into the first Scottish opera. Allan Ransey is among those portrayed on the Scott Monument and was the father of Allan Ramsey the famed portrait painter.

I'll leave you to fight it out with Tim as to who goes next.


Thanks both - as G. Willans wold have sed "History started badly and hav been getting stedily worse"

So here is one that confused me when I first visited Scotland - KB is unconnected with K
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Re: Can I have a 'P' please Bob - Scotland

Postby Sgurr » Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:03 am

Kinloch-Bannoch is unconnected with Kinloch? No, I knew it wasn't.
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Re: Can I have a 'P' please Bob - Scotland

Postby Glengavel » Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:17 am

Kingston Bridge?
Kincardine Bridge?
Kylesku Bridge?

I'd opt for Kincardine Bridge, which is nowhere near Kincardineshire.
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Re: Can I have a 'P' please Bob - Scotland

Postby HalfManHalfTitanium » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:04 am

When I first drove up to Scotland, I had a road atlas with Kincardineshire marked in it (it was a bit old I admit)

Then I saw lots of signs for Kincardine Bridge.

As you can imagine, I ended up driving the wrong way.

Well done Glengavel, over to you!

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Re: Can I have a 'P' please Bob - Scotland

Postby Glengavel » Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:24 pm

Ah, the perils of answering correctly - you have to think of one yourself...

HJ replaced SJ.

(edit - sort of, at least played a more prominent role)
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Re: Can I have a 'P' please Bob - Scotland

Postby Glengavel » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:31 pm

OK, a clue.

SJ was associated with PH.
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